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Mazda 3 2017 - Spare Wheel - Pat Cooke

We have our car through Motability and have booked a holiday to France even got our European breakdown cover through the RAC at no extra charge, all good so far. However having read the book the RAC sends through it says that if you have a puncture and there is space for a spare wheel and no spare wheel present then they will not assist.

So we are having to look for a spare wheel, there are a couple on Ebay, one the saver wheel with tool kit at £130 and a full size wheel with tool kit at £140.

Any thoughts please on which way to go - car breakers, Ebay, dealership.

Thanks

Mazda 3 2017 - Spare Wheel - SLO76
I’d call the RAC to verify this. Most modern cars don’t come with a spare wheel these days and I find it hard to believe the RAC wouldn’t assist a disabled customer in such a situation. However if there’s space for a spare I’d certainly want to carry one. If the RAC document is indeed correct then cancel your policy and find someone who is living in the modern day instead of 1985.
Mazda 3 2017 - Spare Wheel - Bromptonaut

As SLO says, it's worth having a word with the RAC. It's possible the wording is intended to cover people with people who should have a spare wheel but don't. I'd also have a word with Motability.

Mazda 3 2017 - Spare Wheel - skidpan

I looked Mazdas when I bought the Superb and have also looked at the CX3 for the Mrs. A spcae saver is an option but its an expensive one, about £450. In every case it results in the loss of some boot space, not much but it lifts the boot floor. Mot an issue with a 6 or CX5 but could be with smaller models.

And where do you put the dirty, punctured full size wheel considering that the space saver will not fit in the car boot?

Mazda 3 2017 - Spare Wheel - Engineer Andy

To be fair, most cars these days only come with a spacsaver-sized under boot well, but I agree that Mazda's rip off price of around £400 puts many people off when other makes offer them as part of the car's price which is competitive anyway. I too think it's bad design to not have a full size spare wheel well to take the removed one, all seemingly done to save a few km and shave off a couple of CO2 points perhaps to drag it into a lower group - saving some money on one hand but costing the customer much more on the other.

Even more of a problem for CX-3 Sport owners who can't even fit a spare because the hole accommodates the uprated sound system. What would be useful on this website is for a list to be kept for cars that have full sized wheel wells in the boot and what spare type comes as standard.

Mazda 3 2017 - Spare Wheel - Pat Cooke

my thoughts exactly but their response is that you should have a spare wheel. I cannot believe that Motability/RAC would institigate this, what would happen if the person driving was in a wheelchair

Mazda 3 2017 - Spare Wheel - Theophilus
I’d call the RAC to verify this. Most modern cars don’t come with a spare wheel these days and I find it hard to believe the RAC wouldn’t assist a disabled customer in such a situation.

My understanding is that even with European cover for breakdowns in France both the RAC / AA do not provide the service themselves, but subcontract to local garages, who may well have restrictions on what they do.

I'll be interested to hear what RAC say if the OP has contacted them to query this.

Mazda 3 2017 - Spare Wheel - Smileyman

I nearly purchased a Mazda 3 last summer, I shortlisted the car however the lack of spare wheel and lack of wheel well to store it was one of the reasons I decided against the car, one dealer offered to sell me a product that would be used to plug any puncture, I shut him up with stories of shredded tyres and being stranded late at night ... and the lack of suitable place for any punctured wheel to be stored.

Purchased a SEAT Toledo, full size (15") wheel in well under boot, I had a puncture in September, the well is big enough for the 17" bling bling wheels that came with the car. Also, Mrs S had an incident in November 16, cold wet night she hit the kerb, and one of the tyres burst ... on went the spare and 20 minutes later she was on her way ... what car does she drive ..... a older model Mazda 2!

Mazda 3 2017 - Spare Wheel - Avant

Yes - the Mazda CX-3 was crossed off my shortlist for the same reason. It should be a deal-breaker, but for most buyers it isn't - because they just don't think. Some of them will find out the hard way - stuck on a country lane with a gash from a pothole, too big for the can of gunk to be any use.....and no mobile reception.

OK - the risk of that happening may be small, but it's one that I'm not prepared to take.

Mazda 3 2017 - Spare Wheel - MrEckerslikefromRamsbottom

Am I not right in thinking that the Mazda 3 is built on the same chassis as the Ford Fiesta? I was under the impression that all the suspension parts, brakes and wheels were identical to the Ford - in which case a spare wheel off a Fiesta would be readily available and cheap.

Mazda 3 2017 - Spare Wheel - Montoe

I think in way like mazda 3 it is the best their model. First of all it is price, the second it it engine force, and the third it is wonderfull inside stuff.

Mazda 3 2017 - Spare Wheel - Pat Cooke

Am I not right in thinking that the Mazda 3 is built on the same chassis as the Ford Fiesta? I was under the impression that all the suspension parts, brakes and wheels were identical to the Ford - in which case a spare wheel off a Fiesta would be readily available and cheap.

now that certainly is a thought worth investigation, thank you

Mazda 3 2017 - Spare Wheel - smallcar
Mazda 3 is much larger than a fiesta. I’d be surprised there was any relationship between them.
Mazda 3 2017 - Spare Wheel - argybargy

I've been lucky enough never to have to change a wheel when out and about due to a puncture (and now that I've written that, it'll happen tomorrow). I don't count the time I unknowingly drove around for days in a Mini with a six inch nail through a tyre, the rubber only deflating when I tried to pull the metal out.

However, point is that anyone "old school" who is used to having a spare wheel rather than a repair kit of unquantifiable efficiency is unlikely to be comforted by finding themselves with the second option. I know I certainly wasn't when I found that the B Max had one of these kits, and conversely I was much reassured when I delved into the depths of the Jazz boot and found an actual wheel. What you certainly DON'T need to add to the mix is breakdown companies who should know better, making things even more difficult for you.

Its one of few technological "advances" which has had a direct and detrimental effect on the art of motoring, and which feel distinctly like a backward step.

Mazda 3 2017 - Spare Wheel - Smileyman

Am I not right in thinking that the Mazda 3 is built on the same chassis as the Ford Fiesta? I was under the impression that all the suspension parts, brakes and wheels were identical to the Ford - in which case a spare wheel off a Fiesta would be readily available and cheap.

now that certainly is a thought worth investigation, thank you

It's the Mazda 2 ... Mrs S has a Mazda 2, built in 2004 in Valencia (Spain) in the same factory as the Fiesta of the day ....some common parts too .... but this was 14 years ago, cannot say what the current position is ....

Edited by Smileyman on 12/02/2018 at 20:19

Mazda 3 2017 - Spare Wheel - Engineer Andy

The previous-generations (two of them) Mazda 3 (up to 2013) was based on the same base platform as the Ford Focus, not the Fiesta, but there are enough differences to make a difference as to the specs. I can say though that the Mazda back then (I have a mk1 built in Oc 2005) does have a space-saver spare but the wheel well can only take that smaller size spare and not a full diameter tyre equivalent to the 4 on the car). I suspect many other cars, though not as many as today, have the same issue. I would rather pay a bit more for a full size wheel well and tyre/wheel combo, as my 1996 Micra had.

The new 3 is not related to the Focus as Ford and Mazda went their separate ways before the latest crop of models came out (the Mazda5 excepted perhaps, which might be stil based on those two cars). As such, the wheel well is unlikley to be the same as the Ford's (which now has a smaller boot size - it used to be the other way around on the Mk1 and 2/2.5 Focus).

Worth looking to see what can fit (get the old measuring tape out), or at the very least trying to secure a space-saver as part of any deal (given they certainly don't cost £400 to produce - some other makes only charge a third of that for the same sort of thing), but look around BEFORE you start negotiating. I'd rather have this than a set of mats etc, which can be picked up even at the main daler for £40 or so.

Mazda 3 2017 - Spare Wheel - Pat Cooke

Am I not right in thinking that the Mazda 3 is built on the same chassis as the Ford Fiesta? I was under the impression that all the suspension parts, brakes and wheels were identical to the Ford - in which case a spare wheel off a Fiesta would be readily available and cheap.

Did some investigation on this and you were nearly right the Mazda 2 is built on the same chassis etc as the Ford Fiests - good thought

Mazda 3 2017 - Spare Wheel - badbusdriver

Am I not right in thinking that the Mazda 3 is built on the same chassis as the Ford Fiesta? I was under the impression that all the suspension parts, brakes and wheels were identical to the Ford - in which case a spare wheel off a Fiesta would be readily available and cheap.

Did some investigation on this and you were nearly right the Mazda 2 is built on the same chassis etc as the Ford Fiests - good thought

The previous generation mazda 2 was based on the fiesta floorpan and the one before that was based on the fiesta/fusion floorpan, but i'm pretty sure the current one is all mazda.

Mazda 3 2017 - Spare Wheel - Engineer Andy

Am I not right in thinking that the Mazda 3 is built on the same chassis as the Ford Fiesta? I was under the impression that all the suspension parts, brakes and wheels were identical to the Ford - in which case a spare wheel off a Fiesta would be readily available and cheap.

Did some investigation on this and you were nearly right the Mazda 2 is built on the same chassis etc as the Ford Fiests - good thought

The previous generation mazda 2 was based on the fiesta floorpan and the one before that was based on the fiesta/fusion floorpan, but i'm pretty sure the current one is all mazda.

Yep, similar to my comments about the 3 and Focus above.

Mazda 3 2017 - Spare Wheel - Mick27

I was so insensed with the crazy price Mazda wanted to charge for a spare wheel kit for my Mazda 3 I sent a snotty letter to them. They volunteered to knock off a hundred quid as a result so I bought one. It wasn't exactly a bargain even after the deduction but I felt a lot safer with the spare.

Mazda 3 2017 - Spare Wheel - Pat Cooke

That was certainly worth the price of a stamp, I did query why they didn't offer it at the point of order but they said I should have asked.

Anyway after a frustrating couple of days where some back street garage sold me a wheel (no tyre) saying it definitely fitted, went to get a tyre today and they told me to take it back as it would be dangerous (which I have), I found a car breakers who have been worth their weight in salt. They didn't have a space saver but have sold me a complete Mazda spare wheel (loads of tread on the tyre) which fits correctly, apparently the Mazda 3 2007 model will fit the new 2017 model. Feeling hopeful now that our French trip will come off.

Thank you everyone for your help and advice

Mazda 3 2017 - Spare Wheel - Mick27

The proper kit comes with a thicker floor insert to level of the floor by a couple of inches so its flat when the space saver is in place. Nice car the latest version of the 3, mine was the higher power petrol Sportnav, it was one of my all time favourites and one I've come to regret selling. I would definitely have another.

Mazda 3 2017 - Spare Wheel - Engineer Andy

The proper kit comes with a thicker floor insert to level of the floor by a couple of inches so its flat when the space saver is in place. Nice car the latest version of the 3, mine was the higher power petrol Sportnav, it was one of my all time favourites and one I've come to regret selling. I would definitely have another.

I wasn't keen on the SportNav, whether in 'standard' 2 litre 120hp form or with the uprated 165hp version, mainly because both run on 18in rims and I felt the ride was too firm, and the 165 doesn't have any more torque, so presumably it has to be ragged even more to get that extra performance.

In some countries, notably the US and Australia, where they don't have EU-style average CO2 limits and big corporate fines, the 3 and new CX-5 has a range-topping 2.5 Skyactive 4cyl petrol engine developing about 185hp and much more torque than the 2 litre - that combo would certainly pique my interest, especially if I could get it in a 3 (especially in fastback form - I prefer the styling) and could also get it with the higher profile, more comfortably-riding 16in rims that the SE-L Nav uses (not sure if the brakes on the Sport are uprated/larges and thus 16in rims don't fit [17in not available for Mazdas from the manufacturer as a 'standard fit']]).