Thanks to AVANT for your input.
Barney100 As the problem was evident from new, I would assume that it is non lubrication of the brake caliper sliders when assembled at the factory. Of course I could have whipped the wheel off and checked the slider pins myself but that would mean breaking the manufacturer seal (the blue paste) and invalidating the warranty. The dealer should have done this as part of the check, but it appears that they have only jacked up the car and spun the wheel to evaluate the problem.
Throughout the 70's I worked in the trade at Nash of Cardiff (Vauxhaul dealer) in the stores department. Over time I have rebuilt many Honda 4 engines and restored several early japanese motorcycles to concours quality. I also own and maintain a 21 year old Mercedes 312d Sprinter motor home and a Yamaha 900 Shaft drive tourer. I am not afraid to put on the overalls and get the job done. I could have easily sorted this problem out myself. But why should I do that?
As for the little Hyundai. I bought this as I approached retirement to have a car that required no home maintenance, ie dealer service plan. As one of the contributors above stated it is probably my fault for not being tough enough with the dealer. I suppose I should have stomped in there and demanded to speak with the gaffa and made a fuss. As it happens I did have two disagreements with the service rep on this issue but she clearly has her own agenda on how to deal with cuastomers. She certainly is not helping the dealer create a database of happy cuatomers.
The car was taken to the dealer on the back of a truck this morning at 10.30. As I have the choice of the Sprinter or my Yamaha 900 shaft drive tourer to play with I have told them not to bring it back until they are certain they have sorted the proplem out. I intend to check the work once it is returned as I have little faith in their ability to function.
I will llet you know what happens. In the meantime I am going to calm down by playing 'Julia Florida' by Barrios on my classical guitar.
talk soon!
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The Hyundai dealer has rung me to say thay tested the car and found that the back brakes were running hot so they have put new discs, pads and calipers on the car. I just hope they have greased the sliders.
They have asked me if they can keep the car for a few days so they can make sure that the handbrake system is not causing a problem. I should have it back on Monday.
I just hope that nobody is runing around in it this weekend!!!
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The Hyundai dealer has rung me to say thay tested the car and found that the back brakes were running hot so they have put new discs, pads and calipers on the car. I just hope they have greased the sliders.
They have asked me if they can keep the car for a few days so they can make sure that the handbrake system is not causing a problem. I should have it back on Monday.
I just hope that nobody is runing around in it this weekend!!!
Many years ago i brought my lotus back to the Uk to an independent lotus dealer in Yardley Wood, Birmingham for an engine rebuild, I also asked them to do everything else thet deemed necessary, and asked them to drive it around for a week to make sure it was ok, they did and when I got it back it was superbly done.
Nothing wrong if is being properly tested, and good to hear you have a resolution.
Edited by oldroverboy. on 13/01/2018 at 16:17
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The Hyundai dealer has rung me to say thay tested the car and found that the back brakes were running hot so they have put new discs, pads and calipers on the car. I just hope they have greased the sliders.
They have asked me if they can keep the car for a few days so they can make sure that the handbrake system is not causing a problem. I should have it back on Monday.
I just hope that nobody is runing around in it this weekend!!!
Nice to see they have replaced some parts. I assume it is free under warranty.
Pity they didn't do it before, and it came to this before they provided a decent service.
As you say, hopefully it is being driven with care, and not being thrashed cold by some m****.
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I just hope they have greased the sliders
If they did I hope they used to correct grease. Road dirt has a habit of sticking to the wrong stuff and will cause them to start sticking in no time.
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Hi all, The car was returned to me this morning on the back of a truck. A quick observation shows that the discs pads and the complete calipers/holders have been renewed.
It now runs smoother, quieter and is much more brisk than it ever has been. This indicates that the rear brakes have been binding since I have had the car (new 2014) and is the reason why 32mpg is showing on the average mileage readout. I have also noted that when you apply the handbrake on a hill and take your foot of the brake pedal the rear of the car rides up. It has never done that before so it looks like the binding was worse than I thought. It is sad that you cannot trust a main dealer to take proper care of you car.
I suspect that Hyundai fitted calipers without grease on the sliders on the assembly line, I cannot think of any other reason why the rear brakes would not release on a new car. Poor show Hyundai, worse still, the dealer. No excuse for such shoddy customer service. No appology or contact as yet!
Nest question, do I keep the car or swap it for a classic aluminium bodied XJ6 Jaguar, that will be fun!
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Nest question, do I keep the car or swap it for a classic aluminium bodied XJ6 Jaguar, that will be fun!
Which do you expect to be most reliable and cheaper to run?
If "fun" is a major factor why did you buy a city car?
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Nest question, do I keep the car or swap it for a classic aluminium bodied XJ6 Jaguar, that will be fun!
Which do you expect to be most reliable and cheaper to run?
If "fun" is a major factor why did you buy a city car?
Good to see you back Skiddy. Have you heard the expression "tongue in cheek" I wonder?
I think the OP was having a little fun.
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I think the OP was having a little fun.
Like he was having a little fun when he bought a car that had unsolved safety issues after 3 years of use.
I personally think he was being serious.
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This seems like a case of Hyundai having issues with the indian factory quality control, a repeat problem for all manufacturers in India with the expection being Suzuki.
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Nest question, do I keep the car or swap it for a classic aluminium bodied XJ6 Jaguar, that will be fun!
Which do you expect to be most reliable and cheaper to run?
If "fun" is a major factor why did you buy a city car?
i would like a Jag, but it wouldn't fit on the drive nor would I be able to park it in town, so totally impractical. So yes, tounge in cheek!
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I suspect that Hyundai fitted calipers without grease on the sliders on the assembly line, I cannot think of any other reason why the rear brakes would not release on a new car.
One possibility might be that the car had been parked in the open after unloading from a ship for several months before reaching a dealer. Seems unlikely for a Hyundai, but it certainly used to happen for other makes.
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I suspect that Hyundai fitted calipers without grease on the sliders on the assembly line, I cannot think of any other reason why the rear brakes would not release on a new car.
One possibility might be that the car had been parked in the open after unloading from a ship for several months before reaching a dealer. Seems unlikely for a Hyundai, but it certainly used to happen for other makes.
Most cars spend most of their time stationery with the handbrake on, ie, an hour comute in the morning, all day on the handbrake, then an hour comute on the way home. all night on the handbrake. Down the shops and back at the weekend then the handbrake on for the rest of the time.
As the sliders are sealed from the weather if they are greased properly I can't see why, especially when they are new, they would seize up. If they are dry that is another matter.
My Merc motor caravan spends a lot of time parked up and I don't have a problem with brakes siezing up. the old bus has done in excess of 191,000 miles too.
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<< ... sliders are sealed from the weather ... >
They'll need to be pretty good seals to keep weather (and salt) out for long on a disk-brake caliper. Even forgetting the vigorous use of a hose in winter?
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Our Honda CR-V had a 60,000km service this week, and I was pleased to see that the caliper sliding surfaces have been greased. Sticking rear brake calipers can be a bit of a problem here on Austria, with wet salt roads in the winter, so I was heartened to see that the dealer has pre-empted any problems.
Edited by Mike H on 19/01/2018 at 17:32
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Our Honda CR-V had a 60,000km service this week, and I was pleased to see that the caliper sliding surfaces have been greased. Sticking rear brake calipers can be a bit of a problem here on Austria, with wet salt roads in the winter, so I was heartened to see that the dealer has pre-empted any problems.
What more could one want than a dealer with a bit of foresight and a willingness to please his customers!
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Hi Guys,
I went for a 12 mile round trip this morning and guess what, the rear right hand brake is running hot and smelling like a rubber band, the three other wheels are OK.
So, with a complete new set of brakes on the rear of the car there still is a problem.
As I have driven another i10 (courtesy car) with the same problem on the right hand rear wheel there has to be a comon factor in this.
Faulty parts or poor design. Hand brake cable?
Any ideas men!
On Monday I intend to drive the car for a 12 mile trip ending up at the dealer. If the wheel is hot I will park it adjacent to the showroom door and the heat from the wheel should keep the door open :-)
Anyone want to buy a pre owned i10?
Edited by fisjon on 20/01/2018 at 12:46
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Only looked occasionally at this thread. It seems repetitive, noting and pointless. Just wanted to say !
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Only looked occasionally at this thread. It seems repetitive, noting and pointless. Just wanted to say !
Thanks scot22.
If you had an i10 and the rear brakes locked up you would soon change your mind.
Hyundai PR got in touch 9.03 Monday morning. Very apologetic! I have been to the dealer today after running the car on a 20 mile trip and both rear brakes were running as they should.
I have been assured that if the problem occurs again they will take the car in and give it a thorough nit pick through the braking system. Crossed fingers this won't happen but 'sods law' etc.
I would encourage any Hyundai i10/i20 owners who are having issues with poor fuel economy to talk with Hyundai PR. Your car could have dragging brakes and that is dangerous.
I have also spoken with an engineer from VOSA and they have taken this issue up with Hyundai. All parties are now aware of this issue.
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Only looked occasionally at this thread. It seems repetitive, noting and pointless. Just wanted to say !
Thanks scot22.
If you had an i10 and the rear brakes locked up you would soon change your mind.
Hyundai PR got in touch 9.03 Monday morning. Very apologetic! I have been to the dealer today after running the car on a 20 mile trip and both rear brakes were running as they should.
I have been assured that if the problem occurs again they will take the car in and give it a thorough nit pick through the braking system. Crossed fingers this won't happen but 'sods law' etc.
I would encourage any Hyundai i10/i20 owners who are having issues with poor fuel economy to talk with Hyundai PR. Your car could have dragging brakes and that is dangerous.
I have also spoken with an engineer from VOSA and they have taken this issue up with Hyundai. All parties are now aware of this issue.
Once again, your post is emotive and grossly exaggerates.
You state that the car is 'dangerous'. No, it isn't. It's a pain, but it's not 'dangerous' - or if it is, then you're admitting to having driven around in a car in an unroadworthy condition for a number of years. Which means you've been driving around in breach of your insurance for all that time too. Will you be informing your insurance company of how 'dangerous' your car is, I wonder ?
You now go on about the brakes 'locking up'. This has, however, never happened to you - in spite of the 'dangerous' car being used by you for a few years now.
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f you had an i10 and the rear brakes locked up you would soon change your mind.
If it had been my i10 it would have been sorted out a long time ago and not let it drag on for ages - how could you have let them not sort it out when you say it is so dangerous?
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I had a similar problem with the rear brakes on my old Focus, but I dealt with it as soon as it became apparent. We live on a steep hill, and over the course of a couple of days I noticed that the car seemed to be struggling more than usual to negotiate the incline. It was the smell that eventually alerted me to the issue: offside rear shoes sticking on. The drum was red hot, as was the alloy, so I risked ending up with a warped wheel as well.
Took it to a local garage who told me that it needed a new handbrake cable. Fair enough, although they turned out to be the biggest bunch of incompetents I'd dealt with in years, and the clumsy, ignorant oaf who did the job wrecked the plastic shroud on my handbrake by prising it off with what I can only assume to be a chisel, rather than carefully levering it away from the retaining lugs.
Eventually they replaced the shroud and I got the car back with what appeared to be properly functioning rear brakes, but I still felt it necessary to have them checked again by someone I trusted.
Edited by argybargy on 26/01/2018 at 08:55
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f you had an i10 and the rear brakes locked up you would soon change your mind.
If it had been my i10 it would have been sorted out a long time ago and not let it drag on for ages - how could you have let them not sort it out when you say it is so dangerous?
I took it back to the garage 8 times with the same complaint. Each time the fault would not present itself, or they were lying! Without the faut showing they were not going to do anything about it. What do I do, have a paddy in the showroom about a gremlin that was hiding?
The last occasion when the car was taken away on a truck, the rear right hand brake was well and truly jammed on. They tested it and finally the fault was present and they eventually put it right, I think! So far it is ok.
So I defend myself.
As for the dealer and Hyundai, I would just say that I won't be buying another one!
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8 times in 3 years and you thought it was very dangerous?
Why not take to it to another dealer? Why not leave the car with them until it's sorted? If they are not taking it seriusly why not take it up with Hyundai themselves?
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