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Suzuki Swift 2017 - Early oil change light - Wilt

I bought a new Suzuki Swift (new shape) in September - on my way to the shops today the engine oil change warning light came on.

I nipped in to the dealer who said the service guys had gone home for xmas but all that needed doing is to reset the oil change counter as it must have been set incorrectly and that the car was fine to drive until I could pop in between xmas and new year.

I thought this could have made sense at the time as it was three months to the day since I took delivery so it could have been set improperly then.

However, having looked at the owners manual when I got back home it suggests that for my engine (K10C) that the light isn't linked to time/mileage but is dependent on oil condition - meaning that continuing to drive it could potentially cause damage.

The car has done just over 1500 miles.

Is a car requiring an oil change after 3 months reasonable? Should I insist the garage change the oil if they do just try to reset the indicator when I take it in?

Suzuki Swift 2017 - Early oil change light - injection doc

As the K10C engine is the new duel jet diesel I would certainly take it to the dealer and demand an oil change.

Its always possible if you only use it for short runs its trying to regenerate and fuel is contaminating the oil. Knowing how keen manufactures are to hide behind the specific oil servicing these days if the light is reset and it suffers engine failure the manufacturer will walk away. Technically if it has an oil degradation sensor the system shouldnt allow an oil reset without a change.

Suzuki Swift 2017 - Early oil change light - Wilt

Thanks - the K10C is actually the 3cyl turbo petrol engine so regeneration shouldn't be a problem.

I'm probably going to insist on the oil change but it's a bit concerning that it needs one so soon and makes me think something might be lurking...

Suzuki Swift 2017 - Early oil change light - edlithgow

You could get an oil analysis done.

Not very expensive and it'd either give you leverage with the dealer, or peace of mind, depending on the results.

I've never had one done myself since my cars aren;t worth much, They are very popular with oil-obsessed Americans (where they are perhaps cheaper) but I;d think you could get one done in the UK .

You want one that reports viscosity (which they all will) and fuel dilution, the latter preferably estimated by gas chromatography rather than flash point, which is innacurate

EDIT.

www.theoillab.co.uk/product-category/oil-testing/e.../

I did a quick ..G.oogle and the cheapest test offering fuel dilution from the above place is 50 quid, not peanuts but you might be able to get that down a bit by shopping around.

You might try sniffing your dipstick for petrol smell, or...er...getting someone perhaps more experienced to do so.

Theres also a crude chromatographic oil test called the "blotter spot test" but its quite difficult to interpret.

ENDEDIT

Edited by edlithgow on 25/12/2017 at 14:44

Suzuki Swift 2017 - Early oil change light - Simon
Or you could just nip into the dealer on Wednesday and ask them to sort the issue/clarify what's going on.
Suzuki Swift 2017 - Early oil change light - edlithgow
Or you could just nip into the dealer on Wednesday and ask them to sort the issue/clarify what's going on.

Depends on your level of confidence in the dealer.

I've never had any dealing with..er..that kind of dealer, apart from reluctantly buying parts from them very infrequently, but on general principles, and based on what I hear, I wouldn't want to bet a lot of money on one doing the right thing.

Suzuki Swift 2017 - Early oil change light - Lrac

I would get the oil and filter changed but I wouldn't worry about it. I would put it down to the fact that a new car is constantly being started without getting hot.

I once had to work on a boat bringing cars in making sure the cars would start at the docks which could be summed up as having to clean up sooty plugs.

Suzuki Swift 2017 - Early oil change light - SLO76
Nothing to worry about, it’s fairly common on motors with this variable service indicator fitted. Dip the oil to visually check the level and condition of it but otherwise get it reset and forget about it. Our Honda CRV did this at 4mths old too. Suzuki petrol engines aren’t hard on oil and rarely give trouble.
Suzuki Swift 2017 - Early oil change light - Wilt

Thanks all, I'm taking it in to the dealer tomorrow - will see what they say.

Suzuki Swift 2017 - Early oil change light - Thewishy

Where did you get to with the dealer?

My 1l boostjet flagged an oil change at 3300 miles and 4 months. Approx 2000 miles of that has been motorways, but i do have a short daily commute 4 days a week (3m each way).

Manual says out of cycle oil change required

Suzuki Swift 2017 - Early oil change light - Grease_monkey

My new swift 1.0 litre boosterjet SZ5 told me it wanted a oil change after 232 miles and 6 weeks old. The supplying dealer just told me to reset the oil change on the dash. During pdi, it does seems that the oil change has not been re-set for 12 months from that point.

Anyway how are people finding there new swift? 1.0 litre boosterjet engine is a gem.

Edited by Grease_monkey on 04/02/2018 at 16:43

Suzuki Swift 2017 - Early oil change light - Thewishy

Dealer said just to reset.. So I've done that, i guess if it was a real issue then the condition sensor will retrigger.

Enjoying the swift as a replacement for a 2012 swift sport. The engine is nippy, the mpg is great. Overall rather happy

Suzuki Swift 2017 - Early oil change light - Grease_monkey

My 2017 boosterjet Swift was serviced by Suzuki on 26th April. There is a software update for this issue. The tech was telling me there is a bug in the original software which made the car think it needed a oil change well before it should. Anyway my car is now all updated (updates for other things too) and we will wait and see.

Edited by Grease_monkey on 28/04/2018 at 02:01

Suzuki Swift 2017 - Early oil change light - Andrew-T

The tech was telling me there is a bug in the original software which made the car think it needed a oil change well before it should. .

Presumably if there was a bug it would affect every car using that software. Is that the case?

Before makers started economising on maintenance for the benefit of fleet buyers, it was often recommended to change engine oil after 1000 or 1500 miles to remove the fines created during 'running in'. That is now deemed unnecessary, but it certainly can't hurt.

Suzuki Swift 2017 - Early oil change light - catsdad
HJ view is that early changes can hurt. Under FAQ 16 on running in a petrol engine he says to leave the initial oil in for 10,000 miles. This is to ensure the piston rings bed properly into the bores.
Suzuki Swift 2017 - Early oil change light - skidpan
HJ view is that early changes can hurt. Under FAQ 16 on running in a petrol engine he says to leave the initial oil in for 10,000 miles. This is to ensure the piston rings bed properly into the bores.

That just shows how useless the information on this site can be.

It applied when cars were factory filled with special running in oil but that practice ceased about 200 years ago. Now cars are factory filled with the oil type they should use for all their lives.

Changing oil early before 10,000 miles will probably do the engine no long term good but it will 100% do it no harm.

Suzuki Swift 2017 - Early oil change light - John F
HJ view is that early changes can hurt. Under FAQ 16 on running in a petrol engine he says to leave the initial oil in for 10,000 miles. This is to ensure the piston rings bed properly into the bores.

That just shows how useless the information on this site can be.

And expensive. Still insisting on annual oil changes for poor pensioners doing fewer than 4,000 gentle miles a year with unstressed bog standard engines in almost valueless old cars.

Suzuki Swift 2017 - Early oil change light - skidpan
HJ view is that early changes can hurt. Under FAQ 16 on running in a petrol engine he says to leave the initial oil in for 10,000 miles. This is to ensure the piston rings bed properly into the bores.

That just shows how useless the information on this site can be.

And expensive. Still insisting on annual oil changes for poor pensioners doing fewer than 4,000 gentle miles a year with unstressed bog standard engines in almost valueless old cars.

But only changing your oil every few years is even more stupid. Doing 4000 miles a year a pensioner would spend about £600 in petrol, £300 in insurance, ?£'s on VED plus other servicing and repairs and MOT and tyres. All that adds up to welll over £1000 year. Then there is depreciation which is another unknown without some info about the car not all pensioners drive scrappers. I am a pensioner and we don't.

An oil and filter change costs about £50 max which is a drop in the ocean.

Only a fool would risk the health of their car for such a small amount.

Suzuki Swift 2017 - Early oil change light - catsdad
Thanks skidpan. I appreciate the clarification.