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Any - Unsafe Battery Change Procedure on Wiki How (IMO) - edlithgow

Or Wiki "No Way, No How"

Perhaps its just me. Does anyone else see big bang potential in this picture?

[img]www.wikihow.com/images/thumb/9/9d/Change-a-Car-Bat...g[/img]

The out-of-shot terminal MIGHT be insulated, but it might not, and I don't think an image apparently showing a steel tool spillikens game in progress on top of a car battery has any place on a website which is presumably aimed at complete novices.

Edited by edlithgow on 07/11/2017 at 11:37

Any - Unsafe Battery Change Procedure on Wiki How (IMO) - Bolt

If the + terminal is to the right as it should be, then I see nothing wrong with the tools being where they are, I think I have seen some of your work and would consider that worse than whats in the picture IMO

Any - Unsafe Battery Change Procedure on Wiki How (IMO) - kiss (keep it simple)

I agree it's potentially dangerous. The picture doesn't show the whole battery but I suppoose if you accidently dropped another tool on the ones already there it could be dislodged and complete a circuit. I always make sure I keep spanners etc well away from the battery.

Any - Unsafe Battery Change Procedure on Wiki How (IMO) - Bolt

I agree it's potentially dangerous. The picture doesn't show the whole battery but I suppoose if you accidently dropped another tool on the ones already there it could be dislodged and complete a circuit. I always make sure I keep spanners etc well away from the battery.

You could say that about any job you do on a car, there are potential hazards everywhere, question is, how many avoid them, I`ve seen many a technician with tools on the battery and risk the short- which if your carefull SHOULD not happen

some people do much worst things, like smoking over - around an open fuel tank and get away with it?

Any - Unsafe Battery Change Procedure on Wiki How (IMO) - edlithgow

I agree it's potentially dangerous. The picture doesn't show the whole battery but I suppoose if you accidently dropped another tool on the ones already there it could be dislodged and complete a circuit. I always make sure I keep spanners etc well away from the battery.

You could say that about any job you do on a car, there are potential hazards everywhere, question is, how many avoid them, I`ve seen many a technician with tools on the battery and risk the short- which if your carefull SHOULD not happen

some people do much worst things, like smoking over - around an open fuel tank and get away with it?

Though perhaps true factually, as an argument that makes no sense at all.

If some people played Russian Roulette and got away with it, by your logic, any other dangerous practice with less than a 1 in 6 chance of instant death would be OK. You also ignore the fact that this is allegedly an instructional website.

Long time ago I was in an Explosive Ordnance Disposal Squadron clearing the proposed site of Londons proposed third airport. Civilian workers started industrial action, mostly for danger money. There was a meeting.

Army Spokesman: "This job is safer than crossing the road"

Bolshie Civvie: "I don't believe you, but even if it is, we have to cross the road as well"

The tactic of talking down risk by comparing it with another risk ignores this basic fact.

Risk is additive.

Any - Unsafe Battery Change Procedure on Wiki How (IMO) - Bolt

as an argument that makes no sense at all

I wonder how many times you have posted things on here that are- some would say questionable at best - not forgetting that some people come on here not knowing anything at all about cars.

then see your posts on what you have done, and may take them as being the right thing to do, though not instructional, sometimes people take what they see posted as ok to do themselves. see my point?!

Any - Unsafe Battery Change Procedure on Wiki How (IMO) - edlithgow

as an argument that makes no sense at all

I wonder how many times you have posted things on here that are- some would say questionable at best - not forgetting that some people come on here not knowing anything at all about cars.

then see your posts on what you have done, and may take them as being the right thing to do, though not instructional, sometimes people take what they see posted as ok to do themselves. see my point?!

I see your point, but I'm going to ignore it, because,( like your "argument" above, in fact, of which it is a special case) it has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

It does not make sense to dismiss one risky practice by referring to another (alleged) risky practice.

Any - Unsafe Battery Change Procedure on Wiki How (IMO) - gordonbennet

Some 40 years ago, i was in the workshops of the haulier where i worked at the time, one of the more accident prone drivers was fitting a battery to his lorry which had been on charge till seconds before, by careless spanner use he sparked between the terminals which ignited the fumes and the battery expoloded in his face, more violent than one might imagine.

Miraculously he wasn't seriously hurt, hosed him down and he was ok, i was about 6ft away and didn't realise i'd be caught in the spray till my jeans developed white patches and disintegrated after washing.

Any - Unsafe Battery Change Procedure on Wiki How (IMO) - kiss (keep it simple)

If that happened today there would be hell to pay under health and safety legislation. HSE doesn't care about punters having accidents at home, but at work all risks need to be assessed and measures put in place to prevent them turning into accidents. People moan about "elf and safety" and it can sometimes be tedious but it's there to make you THINK and it has saved countless lives.

Any - Unsafe Battery Change Procedure on Wiki How (IMO) - Manatee

I agree with you edlithgow, a momentary short while someone is leaning over the battery could be more than an inconvenience if the battery happened to be gassing - there could be an explosion and possible loss of sight, or worse.