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Missed the price point Again...... - New MG ZS - oldroverboy.

Follow up to the post where I had a good look at the new suv MG ZS.

Silly so and so's have missed the price point by £1500 as the introductory model is £12.500, no air con only steel wheels and a few other bits missing on a car that is as expensive as other discounted models elsewhere.

Edited by oldroverboy. on 31/10/2017 at 18:52

Missed the price point Again...... - New MG ZS - oldroverboy.

UK buyers will be offered three trim choices. Basic Explore models come priced from £12,495, with mid-range Excite cars from £13,995. However, MG UK reckons that the most popular choice will be the Exclusive model, priced from £15,495 or £17,495 as tested here with a new 1.0-litre three cylinder engine co-developed with General Motors, and a six-speed automatic gearbox.

£17.500 is taking the P.....

Missed the price point Again...... - New MG ZS - SLO76
Couldn't agree more. It's a budget Chinese manufacturer and if they don't get a grip they'll go the way of Proton in the U.K. Their cars are substantially overpriced and suffer catastrophic depreciation as a result.
Missed the price point Again...... - New MG ZS - daveyK_UK
MG need to lose lead with its entry trim cars if only to grab a headline buying figure much like Dacia did.

Short term loss to gain market penetration and sales is their best chance of developing and growing in the UK and Europe

A more reliable and better built and spec rival to Dacia is what they should be aiming for , they can go up market at a later date
Missed the price point Again...... - New MG ZS - oldroverboy.
MG need to lose lead with its entry trim cars if only to grab a headline buying figure much like Dacia did. Short term loss to gain market penetration and sales is their best chance of developing and growing in the UK and Europe A more reliable and better built and spec rival to Dacia is what they should be aiming for , they can go up market at a later date

Agreed, should march duster price and it should/might fly off the shelves, especially as it IS better looking than the Juke/tivoli/duster

Missed the price point Again...... - New MG ZS - badbusdriver

"Agreed, should march duster price and it should/might fly off the shelves, especially as it IS better looking than the Juke/tivoli/duster"

That is surely a matter of opinion?. In mine, the ZS may not be an ugly car, but it is nothing special and with a different badge on it could be anything Japanese or Korean. You could well say the same thing about the tivoli, but IMO it is a better looking, better proportioned car. Neither the duster or the juke could be mistaken for anything else, and while i don't personally think the juke it is an attractive or well resolved shape (back when the juke 1st appeared, i remember reading an unflattering description of it in a car magazine, the jist of which being that it looked like the result of a suzuki swift having gone 10 rounds with mike tyson!), i can understand why so many folk bought them, craving to stand out from the croud. The duster has a real chunky simplicity about its looks to me, something to do with the body looking like it is too small for its unerpinnings with the extravagantly swollen wheelarches. I'd like a basic one in white with the steel wheels.

Missed the price point Again...... - New MG ZS - oldroverboy.

"Agreed, should march duster price and it should/might fly off the shelves, especially as it IS better looking than the Juke/tivoli/duster"

That is surely a matter of opinion?. In mine, the ZS may not be an ugly car, but it is nothing special and with a different badge on it could be anything Japanese or Korean. You could well say the same thing about the tivoli, but IMO it is a better looking, better proportioned car. Neither the duster or the juke could be mistaken for anything else, and while i don't personally think the juke it is an attractive or well resolved shape (back when the juke 1st appeared, i remember reading an unflattering description of it in a car magazine, the jist of which being that it looked like the result of a suzuki swift having gone 10 rounds with mike tyson!), i can understand why so many folk bought them, craving to stand out from the croud. The duster has a real chunky simplicity about its looks to me, something to do with the body looking like it is too small for its unerpinnings with the extravagantly swollen wheelarches. I'd like a basic one in white with the steel wheels.

It was a personal opinion! wnt to the dealers today, before the official launch and had a good look inside and in the boot. Not overly impressed with the faux leather plasticy seats, seating position more carlike than Suv.. salesman already telling me it was a waste of time buying the entry model, as he wouldn't like to take it back as a trade in..... Hmmmm...

However, the base model does have aircon, so not so bad after all, but again a subjective opinion. With the 7 year warranty perhaps worth a punt at some time, but the venga is only 2.5 years old and does everything we need for now.

Missed the price point Again...... - New MG ZS - Engineer Andy

One thing you have to wonder is the extent and longer term viability of the dealer network - a local KIA dealership used to also sell and service (the new) MGs up until 3 years or so ago, but had so little MG-related sales/business that they ditched them.

I dread to think how far away the nearest one is now, plus how long it would take to get spare parts given the small network in the UK/EU - owners might find they end up having courtesy cars (if that is even affordable from the dealership's side) or cars out of action for weeks on end because parts cannot be sourced easily and/or quickly.

Missed the price point Again...... - New MG ZS - Miniman777

MG arent the only ones missing the point, though not price.

I simply do not understand why, given all the grief and bad publicity over VW Group DSG gearboxes they force them on customers that want top spec cars.

You get a 2.0 petrol engine in a Skoda Octavia vRS with a manual box but can you get that combo in a Superb, Kodiaq or the new Karoq? No a flipping hope.

Talk about missed opportunities.....

Missed the price point Again...... - New MG ZS - daveyK_UK

Had a short drive in a brand new ZS today

I was impressed for the price, not a bad car at all and plenty of space.

Seemed to be well built, and warranty was long enough.

Engine was fine but I didnt go very far.

A better option than the ageing Dacia Duster IMO

Missed the price point Again...... - New MG ZS - KB.

Isn't a "refreshed" Duster about to enter the showrooms?

Missed the price point Again...... - New MG ZS - daveyK_UK

Isn't a "refreshed" Duster about to enter the showrooms?

Yes, and the interior is a huge improvement according to all reports

I look forward to seeing one in the flesh

Missed the price point Again...... - New MG ZS - Mr Carrot Cake

The MG ZS should not be an SUV.

Missed the price point Again...... - New MG ZS - alan1302

The MG ZS should not be an SUV.

Why?

Missed the price point Again...... - New MG ZS - SteveLee

I don't know what MG are playing at - I'm sure they could steal the majority of Dacia sales of they got their pricing right, most people on a budget would rather have an MG on the drive over a Dacia, surely selling in volume is far better for the company that trying to make more on each car? I slapped my forehead when I saw the price of the old CityRover - same mistake - quite cheap is not cheap enough in that sector of the market - you have to be the cheapest (or thereabouts) or don't bother – if you’re a short stretch away from the (perceived) premium brand price-point, then the majority of private buyers will ignore your product and make the stretch.

Missed the price point Again...... - New MG ZS - bbroomlea{P}

We have just taken delivery of our new MG ZS and I have to say I am very impressed.

For 16K you get a brand new, good looking, very well equipped car with 7 years warranty.

This is my wifes car, I have a 10 month old Audi A3 S-Line and the ride is better (not difficult in S-line spec!) and in my opinion almost as well put together. There are two annoying rattles in my Audi that I cant trace and none (yet) in the MG. The plastics are fine and feels a more expensive car than it is. The touch screen sat nav is very good although I do miss the live traffic that my Audi has.

It does miss a few things though - no 12v socket in the boot, no rear interior lighting, arm rest etc. and the panoramic sunroof option isnt available in the UK

I read and watched reviews before test driving and I honestly dont think they are talking about the same car sometimes.

Missed the price point Again...... - New MG ZS - SLO76
I’m glad you’re happy with your new purchase. It matters not what others say so long as you’re happy. I do however think that joy will take a tumble when you try to trade it in after 3-4yrs as although it was much cheaper than its more advanced rivals you’ll lose more than this when you come to sell.

It’ll make an excellent used bargain assuming its simple running gear stands up and it doesn’t rot badly but it’s early days to know this. I’d personally rather have bought a low mileage used Mazda CX-5, Toyota RAV 4 or Honda CRV for that money. They’re better made, nicer to drive by all accounts and will last much longer not to mention hold their value far far better.

Budget brands rarely make much economic sense new unless they’re priced correctly like Dacia. Just look at the poor souls who parted with £16k upwards for early high spec MG6’s. They’re selling for less than £2k today.

Edited by SLO76 on 12/05/2018 at 22:19

Missed the price point Again...... - New MG ZS - bbroomlea{P}

She had a MG 3 beforehand - we bought it last June for £5700 and got a £5.1K trade in for the ZS. I can live with such depreciation.

Spare wheel, mats and some extra's thrown in but no discount no matter how hard I tried on list. Bought a dealer stock car - choice of either black or red. everything else was 3-4 months wait. Colleague at work has just made a serious enquiry at his local dealer and told the same - they have sold out of top spec Exclusive models as demand is higher than expected.

I am not fussed on car badges but the main thing is the wife is happy and I am more than happy with the car. You cannot get so much space and equipment for the price. With 0% finance and such a cheap starting point I am not worried about trade in in 5 years time - my A3 will have lost the enitre value of the ZS in its first 3 years of ownership. In context its hard to argue.

Safety wise its not as bad as it looks - it cannot get 5 stars because it doesnt have auto braking. Neither does my 10 month old A3, nor the 3-series, Golf and A4 beforehand. Neither did my wifes MINI, Freelander, A3 or Punto and we are still here today with our right foot as guidance. Its a gimmic from the EU that I will take my chances with.

EDIT - just checked AutoTrader - the cheapest and first (2011) MG6 is £2999. Sub 2K trade in maybe? Either way they are 7 year old cars worth 20-25% of their purchase price in a not so popular class. I expect the MG ZS will fare far better. If it doesnt then 2K a year on average depreciation is something I can live with.

Edited by bbroomlea{P} on 13/05/2018 at 21:10

Missed the price point Again...... - New MG ZS - badbusdriver

Probably the most important thing your wife's MG misses out on compared to your Audi, is crash protection. The ZS is very poor for a modern SUV, the Euro NCAP crash test scored it only 71% for adult occupant safety compared to 95% for the A3 (tested in 2012).

This puts it level with the cheaper Dacia Duster, behind the similarly priced Ssanyong Tivoli (82%). and some way short of the new Seat Arona SUV (95%), available from £16750.

Missed the price point Again...... - New MG ZS - daveyK_UK

I posted further up the thread, I do think the MG ZS is a far better vehicle than the Dacia Duster in pretty much every respect except pricing.

Spending £16k, did you get much discount?

Does it come with a space saver spare wheel?

Does it get the 7 year waranty? How many miles does it cover in those 7 years?

Missed the price point Again...... - New MG ZS - alan1302

Does it get the 7 year waranty? How many miles does it cover in those 7 years?

From Mg's website:

he warranty period commences on the date of first registration. MG covers your new MG ZS for unlimited

mileage up to 12 months, and for 80,000

miles between 13 months and 84 months (whichever comes sooner)

Missed the price point Again...... - New MG ZS - daveyK_UK

Interesting they have sold out of top spec models

Heard mixed reports about Dacia Duster waiting times, one guy wrote there are loads of diesel models available but a factory build / 8 week wait for a 1.2 petrol in top spec Nav+

Missed the price point Again...... - New MG ZS - oldroverboy.

Having now had a good look, and (Crafty) 3 separate test drives, the base model has no air con, but also (importantly, no touch screen). steel wheel trims are very cheap looking, but otherwise not a bad car for the price.

There is a demo MGZS in sheffield for £1000 off.

For the MGZS spare wheels in very short supply, one dealer took a wheel off a demo new car for a customer who would not buy otherwise...

For me, the killer is no aircon, but otherwise nothing to grumble about..

Missed the price point Again...... - New MG ZS - daveyK_UK

There may be an argument the MG ZS is better built and uses better quality (durable/reliable) components than the Qashqai and the re-bagged Renault Qashqai (kadjar).

Missed the price point Again...... - New MG ZS - pd

According to my local MG dealer they've been taken by surprise by the demand for the ZS and are rushed off their feet.

Seems to have been a big hit, so far anyway.