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In the 1980s I had four Peugeots, two 309s and two 504 estates, they were all quite a few years old when I bought them but all were free from rust. All pretty reliable too.(once I'd disconnected the automatic choke on the 504 and rigged a cable to operate the choke instead, to cure it's habit of flooding)
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In the 1980s I had four Peugeots, two 309s and two 504 estates, they were all quite a few years old when I bought them but all were free from rust. All pretty reliable too.(once I'd disconnected the automatic choke on the 504 and rigged a cable to operate the choke instead, to cure it's habit of flooding)
Peugeot's were generally good news in the 80's and 90's before the accountants ruined it.
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My Lexus rx400h is starting to rust, the 99 Range Rover it replaced is still completely rust free.
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My Lexus rx400h is starting to rust, the 99 Range Rover it replaced is still completely rust free.
Wouldn't say no to a general write up on that Lexus of yours SteveLee if you have 5 minutes spare sometime please, including where are you finding the rust (was the car in Scotland or other heavily salted district?).
It's one of the few (edit more like only) alternatives to another Subaru that SWMBO might fancy when her ageing Outback dies.
Edited by gordonbennet on 04/08/2017 at 21:08
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My Lexus rx400h is starting to rust, the 99 Range Rover it replaced is still completely rust free.
Wouldn't say no to a general write up on that Lexus of yours SteveLee if you have 5 minutes spare sometime please, including where are you finding the rust (was the car in Scotland or other heavily salted district?).
It's one of the few (edit more like only) alternatives to another Subaru that SWMBO might fancy when her ageing Outback dies.
Sure, I'll go round it next time I have ten mins and make notes. It's a good car - but lacks soul.
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I have lots of fond memories of the Peugeot 504!.
Growing up in the Shetland islands, my pals Dad had two 504 estates. He used one as the family car (8 seater as my pal had 2 brothers and 2 sisters), and used the other for his work as a mobile fish 'van'. I remember him taking me and my pal into town with it, we were sitting in the 3rd row and thought it was great fun!
Also, my Dad's work had a 504 pick up, which he sometimes borrowed.
But, as lovely as the coupe was, in my mind the ultimate 504's were the ones French firm Dangel converted into 4x4's (coupled with a large increase in ground clearance), available as an estate (which could also be specced as an ambulance), or the pick up.
Great cars!
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I have lots of fond memories of the Peugeot 504!.
Growing up in the Shetland islands, my pals Dad had two 504 estates. He used one as the family car (8 seater as my pal had 2 brothers and 2 sisters), and used the other for his work as a mobile fish 'van'. I remember him taking me and my pal into town with it, we were sitting in the 3rd row and thought it was great fun!
Also, my Dad's work had a 504 pick up, which he sometimes borrowed.
But, as lovely as the coupe was, in my mind the ultimate 504's were the ones French firm Dangel converted into 4x4's (coupled with a large increase in ground clearance), available as an estate (which could also be specced as an ambulance), or the pick up.
Great cars!
Yes, I had two kids after wife no1 left, second wife had three, so transporting all of them was a problem, we needed two cars till we got the 7 seat Family Estate, built like a tank. The loadspace with seats folded let me buy and bring home a half-size snooker table, the man in the shop was surprised when I declined his offer to deliver it!
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My Fiat Mirafiori in the early 80s was like paper underneath at 8 years old.
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You mentioned the Rover 213, SLO.
It wasn't a 213 but a 216 (Honda engine, or was that the 213?) that I traded in for my Rover 820 Fastback, and in money terms it turned out to be one of the most unwise exchanges I ever made. OK, the 216 was bought from a snake oil salesman in Southport who had white carpets on the floors of his apartment and who had the car sprayed with a coat of lacquer before selling it; a coat that came off in sheets not long after I bought it (yes, pattern emerging here) but in the short time we had it, it proved to be far more reliable than the poor, abused old 820.
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You mentioned the Rover 213, SLO.
It wasn't a 213 but a 216 (Honda engine, or was that the 213?) that I traded in for my Rover 820 Fastback, and in money terms it turned out to be one of the most unwise exchanges I ever made. OK, the 216 was bought from a snake oil salesman in Southport who had white carpets on the floors of his apartment and who had the car sprayed with a coat of lacquer before selling it; a coat that came off in sheets not long after I bought it (yes, pattern emerging here) but in the short time we had it, it proved to be far more reliable than the poor, abused old 820.
213 was the honda 1.3 engine but the 1.6 (forget the unit now)but was the same engine used in the montego and other cars they made which wasnt as reliable, body was the honda ballade altered for BL but the 1.3 12valve was reliable and economical.
I had an 1989 F plate they stopped making them a year later for the new model, which was better except for the little known(at the time ) K series which suffered some problems, unless you bought the diesel 2.0 most reliable unit the put in it
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In the SD3 from 84-89 it was the 213 which used the excellent 12v Honda 1343cc engine. A brilliant little saloon, basically a Honda Ballade with some Roverised trim and chrome. It went well, was comfy and the engine was nearly impossible to kill. Shame it rusted so badly.
The 216 used the same S series engine as the Montego and it was actually ok but nowhere near as smooth and much harder work to sell on with exception of the rare Vanden Plas EFi or Vitesse which always found buyers.
We had loads through the door over the years as my gaffer was a BL fanatic, though he'd deny this if you asked. Trailer after trailer full of Montego's, R8's, Metros and 800's arrived weekly to keep our sales skills sharp.
The R8 that replaced the SD3 used a Honda 1600 in single and twin cam form until BMW bought the firm and the Honda link disappeared forcing a rushed uprating of the K series to fill the role and the notorious head gasket issue ensued. It was never meant to be larger than 1400cc with Honda and T series units covering the larger models. The 1.1 and 1.4 k series could pop a head gasket but it was far less common than with the larger units, especially the 1800 which could pop at less than 30k.
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213 was the honda 1.3 engine but the 1.6 (forget the unit now)but was the same engine used in the montego and other cars they made which wasnt as reliable, body was the honda ballade altered for BL but the 1.3 12valve was reliable and economical.
I had an 1989 F plate they stopped making them a year later for the new model, which was better except for the little known(at the time ) K series which suffered some problems, unless you bought the diesel 2.0 most reliable unit the put in it
Our 216 was a C plate and I still I remember the full reg. It was the first car I ever owned that felt truly "modern", for want of a better word. Prior to that we had a string of bog standard Escorts that started with a P reg hatch, which was the colour of a Sherman tank, a white C reg estate that took us on a series of family holidays around Britain without ever missing a beat, and a T reg example with the vinyl look roof.
I felt pretty swish driving around in my gold Rover till the paint started coming off. Little did I know it was the first of a series of disastrous purchases that would have put me off cars for life and turned me into a permanent cyclist if hadn't been for the kids.
We did have a Montego but it was the MG, which I think was a two litre. Lovely car when it worked, but yes, expensive when it didn't.
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