As a car diver and cyclist I'm very, very disappointed by the irresponsible anti cycling comment from HJ in response to PO from Claygate. Yes, some cyclists can seem arrogant, cycling along a queue of cars fuming behind them for minutes on end! even choosing to ride on a smooth, well maintained yard width of road over a skanky strip of obstacle strewn bike path/pedestrian pathway. And I agree that some cyclists get overly righteous and messianic, its a symptom of the need to survive - get your retaliation in first syndrome. I urge any driver to try 2 wheel s V cars just once, such a useful perspective - HJ, swap you trilby for a helmet and hire a bike in Richmond park for a lap, a great and relatively gentle way to experience the futility of many drivers behaviour. The police 5 foot mat is obviously a good way to drum it into car drivers that a wing mirrors width is not enough clearance when passing a bike, again, try it one day, its very unpleasant. In what way is a bicycle passing a car similarly dangerous? Similarly - as you'll know many "lycra louts" can easily maintain 20 mph, how about a court ruling when a pedestrian V cycle injury has occurred as a result of shared use (often simply a path that's been repainted 50/50) For the man on a mission in his 4 wheeled fortress it can all seem so unfair. Fact is these lethal, polluting boxes are obsolete. These are the driven car's dying days, those annoying 2 wheeled obstacles will out live the car as we know it by a century or more. If the car driver does not choose to educate oneself the future will be avery frustrating place to be.

Edited by Theo Williams on 16/04/2017 at 10:13