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Speed Awareness Course offer - Leothelion

Hubby managed to do 34 in a 30, standard SP30 notice arrived on green paper and we sent it back accepting the offer of the course. Paper work told us if a course had been undertaken in the previous 3 years another one cannot be done.

Husband had previous SP30 in January 2010 and did attend a course, effectively almost 7 years ago, no other offences since then.

Letter arrived this morning rescinding the offer of speed awareness course, no reason given, just a simple pay the £100 in next 14 days or go to court. I have written to them to ask why offer rescinded but wondered if anyone on the forum could shed light on it ? Thank you

Speed Awareness Course offer - RT

Presumably you had a previous Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP) requiring the driver to be identified?

If they didn't receive hubby's acceptance of the offer, I think that's what happens automatically - and - I think you have to actually book the course.

It may be better to phone them to try to sort it out, it's quicker if you're up against deadlines.

Speed Awareness Course offer - Leothelion

We did respond and confirm he was driving.

Speed Awareness Course offer - RobJP

ACPO state that there should be a leeway, this was always defined as 10% +2 mph. Meaning that you should not face any penalty at 34mph.

You might want to consult a specialist solicitor about potentially pleading not guilty, and letting the matter go to court.

Speed Awareness Course offer - RT

ACPO Guidelines are just that, guidelines - not all police forces use them.

Speed Awareness Course offer - Leothelion

He has resigned himself to the fact he has had a penalty but we cannot understand why the police offered the awareness course then changed their minds with no reason.

Speed Awareness Course offer - Leothelion

Just had response from our email to the ticket office. Apparently my husband did a speed awareness course in Wales in 2014. That is news to him and I want to know what he was doing in Wales ! We live in middle england and haven't been anywhere near Wales in 30 years.

Looks like the ticket office has a left hand right hand issue.

Speed Awareness Course offer - Vitesse6

Or are you the victim of identity theft, is there someone else driving around with a fake licence in husbands name?

Speed Awareness Course offer - Leothelion

Or are you the victim of identity theft, is there someone else driving around with a fake licence in husbands name?

Just what we are thinking now. I have emailed back to the ticket office. Hopefully we can get it sorted out.

Speed Awareness Course offer - RT

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Edited by RT on 15/12/2016 at 19:58

Speed Awareness Course offer - ExA35Owner

The "consult a solicitor and go to court" approach would be unwise, I think. ACPO guidelines are just that, nothing more. Driving at 30.001 mph is an offence - the idea of the leeway was to remove concerns about measurement error etc; that's why 30.001 wouldn't be acted upon. If this went to court you'd have to discredit the police evidence that you were exceeding 30 - which would be difficult to say the least. There would also be costs awarded against you on conviction, and the fine would likely be higher than the £100 fixed penalty.

Edited by ExA35Owner on 16/12/2016 at 00:09

Speed Awareness Course offer - Leothelion

The "consult a solicitor and go to court" approach would be unwise, I think. ACPO guidelines are just that, nothing more. Driving at 30.001 mph is an offence - the idea of the leeway was to remove concerns about measurement error etc; that's why 30.001 wouldn't be acted upon. If this went to court you'd have to discredit the police evidence that you were exceeding 30 - which would be difficult to say the least. There would also be costs awarded against you on conviction, and the fine would likely be higher than the £100 fixed penalty.

Thank you, we have no intention of contesting the ticket, he was doing 34 (I was in the car, and of course it was my fault !!), there is no dispute the incident happened and no dispute my husband should have been concentrating more.

It is the rescinding of the speed awareness offer that is the issue together with the police saying husband did a course in Wales in 2014 which is incorrect, hopefully we will get another response from the police today.

Speed Awareness Course offer - concrete

A wise decision not to go to court. It is too dependant upon the magistrate of that day. They can use the guidelines which indicate no action should be taken unless 35mph was exceeded, but it is a lottery. I hope you sort out the confusion around the course and move on, poorer but wiser.

Cheers Concrete