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Volvo S40 1.8T 2005 - Intermittent mpg/power loss + huge oil consumption - tcpaulh

There are two scenarios that occur at different times for different durations. I haven't found a pattern.

1. Averaging 30mpg with associated torque/power loss of c.25%

2. Averaging 40mpg without torque/power loss

I'm also using a lot of oil (3litres per 500 miles!) without it showing at the exhaust and no sign on the ground. Garage replaced top gasket and filler cap. They couldn't find anything else without expensive dismantling. Have tried using slightly heavier oil but no noticeable impact.

107k on the clock.

Volvo S40 1.8T 2005 - Intermittent mpg/power loss + huge oil consumption - Peter.N.

Did they do a compression test?

Volvo S40 1.8T 2005 - Intermittent mpg/power loss + huge oil consumption - tcpaulh

Sorry for late reply. I thought I'd get an email notification.

As far as I know they didn't do a compression test

Volvo S40 1.8T 2005 - Intermittent mpg/power loss + huge oil consumption - Bolt

Really need to have a compression test done to give an idea of whats wrong, but how do you know its not burning oil?.

assuming you have not noticed from driving position?, does not mean it isnt burning oil, it could dissipate so you dont see it in the mirror

Volvo S40 1.8T 2005 - Intermittent mpg/power loss + huge oil consumption - tcpaulh

Nothing visible from drivers position, You're right. Not very scientific.

I've had the car 6 months or so. It wasn't looked after.

I took it in to Bridgend Volvo Specialists for the oil issue. They just said they found a small leak in the top (cam?) gasket and replaced it + a tiny leak from the oil cap.

Is a compression test inexpensive? Can most garages do it?

Thanks :)

Volvo S40 1.8T 2005 - Intermittent mpg/power loss + huge oil consumption - Bolt

First I would check if its smoking from the exhaust and when its doing it, constant puffing could be either Turbo or rings, puffing while changing gear could be Valve stems/seals

Maybe get someone to follow you to see whats happening, if no engine leaks it has to be burning it

Compression test should not take long and cost will depend on garage labour rate, or find a recommended local mechanic to look at it

Volvo S40 1.8T 2005 - Intermittent mpg/power loss + huge oil consumption - craig-pd130

Unscientific test for oil consumption is this: next time you drive the car for a decent distance (i.e. more than 10 miles), pull over and let the engine just tick over in neutral for 2 minutes.

Leaving the engine running, gearbox in neutral and handbrake on, get out of the car, look at where the exhaust pipe is (driver's side) and rev the engine hard.

If you see a large puff of blue or white smoke, the turbocharger's oil seals are knackered and you need a refurbed / replacement turbo.

Volvo S40 1.8T 2005 - Intermittent mpg/power loss + huge oil consumption - Cyd

In the time since you wrote your OP I could have had the engine in bits by now, probably know what’s wrong and be sorting a raft of spares from eBay ready for a rebuild over the bank holiday.

It sounds though as if you really are not a DIY mechanic, n’est pas? Sounds like you’re gonna be reliant on paying for all the labour required to put this right. Something you seem unwilling to pay for.

In which case I’d suggest you advertise the car on eBay as spares or repair and look to see if you can get £300-£400 for it. In the meantime scrape together a couple of grand and find yourself another car. However, this time heed this advice:
a car of 11 yrs old and 100k+ that “hasn’t been looked after” runs a high risk of being a money pit. I would rather buy something older with more miles that has been cared for. I’m a huge fan of turbos, but they require looking after if they are to ‘go the distance’. Oil service records are essential.

Volvo S40 1.8T 2005 - Intermittent mpg/power loss + huge oil consumption - tcpaulh

Thanks for the advice guys. Yes, I'm fairly ignorant when it comes to cars. It is becoming a money pit but I love it. Best car I've ever had in terms of comfort and lovely to drive when it's behaving itself. You should have seen my last motor. It was a total shed. I'll get some diagnostics done but it's gonna be a while. There's a difference between 'not willing to pay' and living hand to mouth. We can't all just be experts and/or come up with money for major repairs or a new car straight away :)

Volvo S40 1.8T 2005 - Intermittent mpg/power loss + huge oil consumption - hardway

Let me throw this in just how much oil are you having to buy?

And at what cost?

Reson for asking is a long term/time customer had a power steering leak,

Bad enough for him to but a gallon of ATF every few weeks.

This went on for over a year until

Until I pointed out that he'd sepnt way over my estimate for repairing the leak back at the start!

But at a guess you have a turbo related fault.

Volvo S40 1.8T 2005 - Intermittent mpg/power loss + huge oil consumption - tcpaulh

Good point. I'm getting 5l for a tenner so that's around £7 a month or thereabouts...but of course I could be damaging it by doing nothing

I really appreciate the pointers/tips

Will get it looked at in the next few weeks and probably be back here to let you know how I get on :)

Edited by tcpaulh on 25/08/2016 at 22:59

Volvo S40 1.8T 2005 - Intermittent mpg/power loss + huge oil consumption - Cyd

Without being able to see the car, I too would hazard a guess at a turbo related fault. In which case a second hand turbo might fix it.

However it could also be a broken oil control ring on a cylinder or two, in which case it’s engine rebuild time. £££s when you have to pay for the labour.

Volvo S40 1.8T 2005 - Intermittent mpg/power loss + huge oil consumption - tcpaulh

OK experts :)

Here's what I'm getting...

Dark puff when pulling away hard from stationary 75% of the time.

Mid grey puff when changing gear 30% of time

Larger dark puff (couple of feet across) when parked and revving hard (briefly) in neutral after 10 miles.

No constant puffing

Volvo S40 1.8T 2005 - Intermittent mpg/power loss + huge oil consumption - craig-pd130

OK experts :)

Here's what I'm getting...

Dark puff when pulling away hard from stationary 75% of the time.

Mid grey puff when changing gear 30% of time

Larger dark puff (couple of feet across) when parked and revving hard (briefly) in neutral after 10 miles.

No constant puffing

I think that's almost certain to be the turbo oil seals which have failed. Turbo won't be delivering boost properly and it will be leaking oil into either the inlet side or the exhaust, or both.

If you plan to get it replaced or refurbished, make sure the turbo oil feeds are replaced too because they will probably be part blocked with carbon residue.

Volvo S40 1.8T 2005 - Intermittent mpg/power loss + huge oil consumption - tcpaulh

It's still a good idea to have a compression test done first though I assume?

Volvo S40 1.8T 2005 - Intermittent mpg/power loss + huge oil consumption - Cyd

A compression test is a good indicator of the general health of the engine, but it is not the be all and end all. I would have one done, yes.

Like Craig I suspect turbo. Oil may well be getting into the inlet and exhaust side. This means burnt and unburnt HC passing through the cat. The cat won’t like that – it is slowly being poisoned and will die sooner or later. So, I would suggest getting it sorted asap. Heed Craig’s advice about the feed and drain pipes

If oil is being pushed into the inlet side, don’t be surprised if the whole inlet tract doesn’t need a good clean, including the intercooler (it could be part full of oil).

Volvo S40 1.8T 2005 - Intermittent mpg/power loss + huge oil consumption - tcpaulh

You'll love this

Some website took my reg and spat out that I have a 1.8t. Turns out I don't. It's normally aspirated. I'm told Volvo didn't produce a 1.8 turbo for the S40.

Please laugh and point at me. I deserve it.

Anyway, I'm now advised to get a leak down test rather than a compression test.

Given that it's using a lot of oil, it smokes when I pull away or change gear, it drops 10mpg and loses at least a quarter of its power but the problem isn't consistent. I wonder what the hell it is. Sometimes I'll average 40 mpg for a few days and it will pull uphill. Other times it's 30mpg and it won't.

Does the fact that it's intermittent make a serious mechanical problem less likely?

I'll get my coat

Volvo S40 1.8T 2005 - Intermittent mpg/power loss + huge oil consumption - craig-pd130

Hmmmm - yours is an odd car. At a guess I'd say you have a late-registered series 1 car (as these stopped being made in 2004), but I'm not sure they were still doing a non-turbo 1.8 petrol engine at that time.

You might have the Mitsubishi GDI 1.8 engine, which was known for problems as it had a unique fuel injection system.

Can you identify which model you have from this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_S40 ?

Volvo S40 1.8T 2005 - Intermittent mpg/power loss + huge oil consumption - tcpaulh

No. It's not there. It's a second generation 1.8SE (from v5) 5 speed manual petrol.

I'm gonna go ahead and put the reg here. I can always delete it later. RE05 XAH. Engine number 15746. Stated emissions CO 0.270 HC 0.048 NOx 0.030

Edit: V5 info. Variant "MS21" , Version "MS2142??" with the question marks

Edited by tcpaulh on 17/10/2016 at 19:20

Volvo S40 1.8T 2005 - Intermittent mpg/power loss + huge oil consumption - tcpaulh

Position 1 - 3: World Manufacturer Identifier

YV1 = cars

Position 4: Vehicle Code

M = Volvo S40, V50, C30, C70 2013- V40

Position 5: [1999-Present] Vehicle Platform

S = S40 FWD, S60 FWD, S80 FWD

Position 6- 7: Engine Code

21 = B4184S11 V50/S40 1.8

Vin Engine

21 B19A

Position 8: Body Style/Emissions Code

[1992-Present] Emission Control Equipment

4 = Engine Codes 71

Position 9: Gearbox

2

Position 10: Year Mode Code

5 = 2005

Position 11: Plant of Assembly Code

2 = [Belgium] Ghent Plant VCG 22

Position 12-17: Chassis Code

102870

ENGINE NUMBER 15746

Volvo S40 1.8T 2005 - Intermittent mpg/power loss + huge oil consumption - mss1tw
If it hasn't got a turbo but is down on power and smoky it might just be running rich or going into limp mode although I'd expect the engine malfunction light to be on - this lights up and goes off with the ignition sequence, right...? Given the sound of this car I thought it worth asking.

Also the basics: air filter, spark plugs

Doesn't explain the oil burning but maybe they are two separate faults.
Volvo S40 1.8T 2005 - Intermittent mpg/power loss + huge oil consumption - tcpaulh

First thing I did was have it serviced. Plugs, filters etc. There's no engine warning light on. I'll check if it lights up and goes our during ignition sequence.

Volvo S40 1.8T 2005 - Intermittent mpg/power loss + huge oil consumption - John F

I'm not an expert but burning 3l oil per 500mls = knackered engine in my view. By far the most common cause of such knackeredness is piston ring wear/fracture. Valve guides, the other portals of oil entry into the combustion chamber, are far less susceptible to wear and failure by comparison. Either way, it's probably scrap value now, so run it on the cheapest 20-50 till it drops - or fails its emissions test!

Volvo S40 1.8T 2005 - Intermittent mpg/power loss + huge oil consumption - liammcl

Tcpaulh, just looked here for any clues
www.check-mot.service.gov.uk

and before you bought it,
it had an "engine light on" as an advisory 3rd oct 2015

...I wonder what hapened for the light to go out, since then?

  • Test date3 October 2015
  • Expiry date2 October 2016
  • Test ResultPass
  • Odometer reading101,541 miles
  • MOT test number9923 9735 4250
  • Advisory notice item(s)
    engine management light on

Cheers
Liam


Volvo S40 1.8T 2005 - Intermittent mpg/power loss + huge oil consumption - John F

And I wonder what the emissions readings were....and will be should it be driven directly to the MoT station in the near future!

Volvo S40 1.8T 2005 - Intermittent mpg/power loss + huge oil consumption - liammcl

It's just passed it's MOT a few days back... clean as a whistle.

Looks like when it works, it works 100%

MOT history of this vehicle
  • Test date18 October 2016
  • Expiry date17 October 2017
  • Test ResultPass
  • Odometer reading107,774 miles

Cheers
Liam

Edited by liammcl on 20/10/2016 at 21:11

Volvo S40 1.8T 2005 - Intermittent mpg/power loss + huge oil consumption - John F

Excellent.......so is it really using as much oil as you say? All v curious.

Volvo S40 1.8T 2005 - Intermittent mpg/power loss + huge oil consumption - liammcl

ps John F,
just to clarify ...and I know you know this.

It isn't my car, it's tcpaulh's

I just looked up the mot history
from the registration number tcpaulh supplied.

This post, is just to prevent further people from getting confused,
incase the are catching the tail end of this thread.

All the best
Liam

Volvo S40 1.8T 2005 - Intermittent mpg/power loss + huge oil consumption - Volvo-S40

Did you ever get to the bottom of what was causing your problems? My S40 1.8 has started doing the same thing, and I would appreciate some pointers as to where to start.

Thanks