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Wheel bolt tap and die - Andrew62

Hi learned ones. I've just replaced the steel wheels/tyres on my car. The fitters I used pointed out some very rusty wheel bolts some of which were very difficult to remove and others were "fragile". They suggested that I get some new ones and then get the bolt holes cleaned out by tap and die (apologies if wrong terminology). I now have the new bolts (original equipment). Before I fit them is it worth following the recommendation? I guess my concern is that will not improve things and may make them worse by further damaging the hole and threads. In particular, if the process slightly increases the size of the hole the new bolts will be loose.

Thoughts?

Wheel bolt tap and die - bathtub tom

Running a tap down the threads shouldn't cause any damage, It'll clean up any corrosion and remove any burrd on the threads.

Identifying the thread (size and pitch) and getting the correct tap could be a different matter.

Wheel bolt tap and die - Topdude

How about a bit of old school DIY.

Take one of the old bolts

Use a hacksaw to make a couple of diagonal cuts in the threads

Screw the bolt in to each threaded hole with a in / out / in out motion (don't force it in, just work it back and forth)

This should clean the threads with minimal cost and fuss.

Wheel bolt tap and die - dadbif
I concur, but use a new bolt and a drop of oil on the threads when you do it.
Wheel bolt tap and die - MrEckerslikefromRamsbottom

That is exactly what I would do! the hacksaw cuts are a good idea in some cases, but these wheel bolts are hard, very hard, and making any impression with a hacksaw might prove impossible.

Now, I'm one of those unfortunate people who find the necessity to pick up road-kill when I come across it. I have picked up a small collection of exhaust mounting rubbers, a couple of very nice screwdrivers and even a lump-hammer shaped like a rugby ball. I've just looked through my collection of wheel bolts. I thought (but we know what thought did), I thought that they were all a standard M12 thread, but I see that some have a fine thread and some a coa***r thread. I can't get my M12 nuts to fit either. A 1/2" UNF nut screwed nicely onto the fine threaded ones but was very loose, so they're not Imperial. If anyone can illucidate as to what thread they're likely to be I would like to know. I like to learn something new every day!

Edit -- The forum seems to have censored one of the words I have used by replacing letters with asterisks. They might have found the word too coa***.

OK! The opposite of 'fine'.

Edited by MrEckerslikefromRamsbottom on 06/07/2016 at 00:07

Wheel bolt tap and die - MrEckerslikefromRamsbottom

That's because I spelt it wrong!

Wheel bolt tap and die - bathtub tom

Try c o a r s e!

Wheel bolt tap and die - Wackyracer

Wheel bolts can be m12 with 3 different pitches 1.25, 1.5 and 1.75

Personally, I wouldn't run a tap through the holes in the hub unless the tap was a high quality one. I once used some cheap re-threading taps and they cut over size.

Edited by Wackyracer on 06/07/2016 at 01:37

Wheel bolt tap and die - focussed

It may be possible to find out the thread diameter and pitch from this website by entering you car details - it would appear they also sell wheel nuts and bolts.

www.performancealloys.com/wheel-nuts-wheel-bolts.a...x

And if you need a thread tap this little company is briliant - any thread anywhere.

www.tracytools.com/

Edited by focussed on 06/07/2016 at 17:41