bmx x6 - I Bought a Stolen Car without Knowing

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Sat 19 Jan 2013 16:39
bmx x6 - I Bought a Stolen Car without Knowing - malichi12345

hi can i get help or advice please
November 2012 I saw an advert on the Auto Trader website for a car which i thought was perfect, it was for a BMW X6 XDrive 2009 going for £22,000. I was over the moon because i had been looking for a 4X4 vehicle for a long time and this one in particular was right up my budget. I contacted the seller and over the telephone we came to an agreement that the seller would accept £21,500 cash. With that settlement I went ahead and ran a HPI check on the vehicle and it came back clear so I proceeded to make my way were the seller was waiting for me.
I arrived to the train station and got a cab to the address that the seller had given me
Drove about a minutes to the house, the seller told me that he was the son of the seller his father got him to meet me last minute.
I did not see anything strange about that. I proceeded in what I travelled to the location and checked out the car VIN was correct and did a test drive everything looked normal with the vehicle I was very happy with the condition of the car. We went into the house which I assumed was the sellers sons house it looked very normal and lived in. in the kitchen i handed over the cash and the sellers son handed me the paper work for the car included the MOT/service history book and car v5c documents and the Manuel book for the car. I left the area very happy with my car.

a week later i sent the log book to DVLA to register as the new owner of the car about 2 weeks later I received a letter from the metropolitan police informing me that they have received a letter from the DVLA for a new keeper but they need to come.

On the 09/01/12 the police investigators came to my property to run checks on the car and they informed me that the car was actually a clone it had been stolen and made to look legit the number plate had been changed and so was the VIN So the car has been taken away by the police I and my pregnant girlfriend are £21,500 out of pocket we are expecting our first child. Now I don’t know what to do any advice

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Sat 19 Jan 2013 16:40
bmx x6 - I Bought a Stolen Car without Knowing - malichi12345

I lost the car and money, and now my partner she is about to leave me for making a silly mistake. Because that money we wanted to get a mortgage by the end of this year but I convinced her that we should get a car and sale it by September and it turned out that the car was cloned so please if you don’t have a good advice or point me to the right direction please don’t comment. But the police did tell that I can speak to the insurance that own the car to buy it of them but I’m thinking that they might say they want £25000 or the same amount I have spent already.

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Sat 19 Jan 2013 16:51
bmx x6 - I Bought a Stolen Car without Knowing - skidpan

There is very little you can do.

Hope that the insurance company offer you the car for a reasonable price.

Hope the police catch the sellers and they have enough money to make it worth while for you to sue them.

Put the whole episode behind you and move on.

Be very careful buying cars privately. The HPI is worthless since you ran it against reg/VIN numbers of a legitimate car. All they shoed you was that particular car was not stolen or had oustanding finace on it or had been written off. They showed you absolutely nothing about the car you were buying.

Edited by skidpan on 19/01/2013 at 16:53

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Sat 19 Jan 2013 18:44
bmx x6 - I Bought a Stolen Car without Knowing - leaseman

I am terribly sorry to hear of your plight, and trust that things work out at home. It is, sadly, not an uncommon story.

However, may I ask you to reflect on the stance of others affected by this type of crime.

Some years ago, I ran a group of motor dealers and we had a used car stolen from the forecourt. About 12 months later, the police contacted me reporting that the car had been found, following the new "owners" attempt to retax it. He had, of course, bought it cheaply from the thieves in all innocence, and the sympathetic policeman asked if I would sell the car to the victim at a knock-down price.

My response was totally negative. If it wasn't for people "buying" bargains from unknown sellers, then my insurance premium would be much lower, I would not have to spend a large fortune on security, and I would not be regularly called out in the middle of the night. Sorry. No sympathy. The Insurance Company concerned in your unfortunate incident will have the same philosophy, I'm sure.

There are many honest, long established motor dealers in the U.K. who sell cars in good condition, at market prices, and give proper warranties as to their future use. The pricing of a car is based on supply and demand. I urge all bargain hunters that they should heed the warning. Forget "Caveat Emptor" because you don't understand Latin. Look at the seller before you look at the car. Full Stop.

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Thu 24 Jan 2013 18:05
bmx x6 - I Bought a Stolen Car without Knowing - bmwx6black
Hi I had my BMW x6 stolen from the midlands a few months ago , the police told me that this was not found , the insurance company declared it as a total loss,

Then this week I have receiveD a call from the police saying that my car has been found and sold with cloned plates, mine was a 2010 x drive black and they said it was cloned on 2009 and sold , this is shocking that people do this ,

I hope the police catch these people who are targeting innocent people ,

It is us that suffer , I lost personal belongings and the car and it has made me and my family very unnerved that someone has followed us been watchings us and then taken it from our house.

I hope they catch these people and they pay for their crime.

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Thu 24 Jan 2013 18:17
bmx x6 - I Bought a Stolen Car without Knowing - FP

Sorry to hear of your problems. It's a lot of money to lose.

You say, "...please if you don’t have a good advice or point me to the right direction please don’t comment." And you will notice that no-one has really offered any advice, probably because we can't think of any. Unless you can get some lead on the crooks responsible it's difficult to know what to do and I fear you may just have to live with the consequences of your actions.

The world can be a harsh place sometimes. You have my sympathy.

Edited by FP on 24/01/2013 at 18:19

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Fri 25 Jan 2013 08:15
bmx x6 - I Bought a Stolen Car without Knowing - Dwight Van Driver

Be aware of this piece of legislation which is still current and may help as it appears there are now three owners of the vehicle with a claim

(1) Original Owner

(2) Insurance Company

(3) New buyer.

www.tinyurl.com/bfa7flf

dvd

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Fri 25 Jan 2013 08:17
bmx x6 - I Bought a Stolen Car without Knowing - Dwight Van Driver

sorry that ref wont work - edit button gone. Try

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1897/30/pdfs/ukpga_18...f

dvd

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Fri 25 Jan 2013 08:18
bmx x6 - I Bought a Stolen Car without Knowing - woogie

A terrible story to be honest.Unfortunately you have little chance of financial redress unless they can find the fake seller. I would personaly NEVER spend that kind of money without a few visits if a private sale. Good luck

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Sat 26 Jan 2013 08:35
bmx x6 - I Bought a Stolen Car without Knowing - Simon

So whose house was it that you were in when you did the deal???

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