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Ford's new 3 cylinder EcoBoost 1.0 engine - MikeTorque

New technology in action as you've never seen it before :

http://www.stangtv.com/news/inside-fords-1-0-liter-ecoboost-that-whipped-nurburgring/

A big step forward in engine design.

What do you reckon ?

Ford's new 3 cylinder EcoBoost 1.0 engine - brum

IMO using an offset crankshaft is the big thing.

Edited by brum on 18/01/2013 at 23:48

Ford's new 3 cylinder EcoBoost 1.0 engine - mss1tw

IMO using an offset crankshaft is the big thing.

Is that anything like a cross plane crank? Out my depth, technically, and Google wasn't much help either!

Ford's new 3 cylinder EcoBoost 1.0 engine - unthrottled

Advertorial. Offset cranks have been fairly common for some time. Ditto direct injection-with chequered results.

Some nice glossing in there too. "Externally balanced crank"=cheap substitute for a balance shaft/internally balanced crank. GM used to do the same thing with the cranks in their 400 sbc back in the early 70's. Generally considered to be a bodge.

Ford's new 3 cylinder EcoBoost 1.0 engine - 659FBE

I'm not entirely convinced that Ford got this engine right at the first meeting - tax category isn't eveything. The use of a turbocharger on a petrol engine for "school run" applications is questionable due to potential reliability problems. The exhaust gas temperatures far exceed those found in most diesel applications and turbochargers fitted to petrol engines seldom last as long, on average.

Engine balance is another big question and I thoroughly dislike engines which lack at least primary balance. Obviously we can't all own straight sixes which are almost perfectly balanced but the 3 cyl without a balance shaft is poor - and not a lot better with a balance shaft. Remember all of the engine components, turbocharger, alternator, fuel control etc are being shaken to bits during their operating life. One failure here is expensive.

The maximum rev limit should be a big clue as to how large the out of balance forces are. I haven't checked this engine, but a well balanced 3 of that size should be safe to 7000 rpm.

Finally, although I admire Ford's engineering enterprise, I once unwisely purchased a Ford CVH. The detail engineering, especially the 19 tooth belt timing drive was truly dreadful and the engine was worn out at 100k miles despite good maintenance. A fair engineering concept ruined by cost cutting. No doubt the work of Ford accountants - but I will never again purchase anything from this organisiation.

We'll see how it survives the tarmac jungle - but it's not for me.

659.

Ford's new 3 cylinder EcoBoost 1.0 engine - unthrottled

Let's hope that it fares better than Ford's short lived SCI engine. That was apparently the way forward once-except it wasn't...

Ford's new 3 cylinder EcoBoost 1.0 engine - dogdays

Well here we all are, two years plus later. The ecoboost is so far proving to be a nice engine with no more issues than any other engine. The counter balancing done on the flywheel and front pulley seems to dampen the forces nicely. Quick warm up and a even torque band married to six speed box make the car a delight to drive. The oil lubricated cam drive belt is listed as inspect at 150,000 miles and rated as life of the engine. I realy cannot say anything nasty about this engine. Incidently, I have seen it said that the engine should be allowed to idle for some 15 seconds after being given a good belting. This is to cool the turbo, how this can be done by people when the car has stop start is a little strange, unless they can remember to turn the system off before stopping the car.

Ford's new 3 cylinder EcoBoost 1.0 engine - Engineer Andy

What about the mpg? I was led to believe it isn't anywhere near the 'tested' figures.

Ford's new 3 cylinder EcoBoost 1.0 engine - Avant

Many thanks 659 - that explanation makes sense even to a non-engineer like me.

I would have thought that the main raison d'etre of small, apparently efficient petrol engines is to produce economy approaching a diesel. But from what I've read neither this Ford engine nor the much-vaunted twin in the Fiat 500 is particularly economical. I believe that the new small fours like the VAG 1.2 and 1.4 TSI are much better in this regard - although it would be good to hear from anyone who drives one to see if that's true.

Ford's new 3 cylinder EcoBoost 1.0 engine - Chris79
I drove a 1.4 tsi 122hp in an 2008 a3 sport back for 2 years. A lovely engine to drive and I got between 35-40 mpg for the 2 years I ran it. It's probably the nicest engine I ve driven in ters of drivability. As for long term reliability..... I had no problems but got rid of it after 33k so it was to early to tell.
Ford's new 3 cylinder EcoBoost 1.0 engine - MikeTorque

I drove the latest Fiesta 1.25 82ps over a test route; the trip computer read exactly 50mpg. Over the same route with similar speed and traffic I got 64.5mpg with the 100ps EcoBoost engine. The 1.25 engine is a smooth 4 cylinder which takes no time to learn, the EcoBoost engine is quite different and takes longer to learn how to drive to utilize & optimise its various characteristics.

I have since driven the Fiesta 100ps version from cold numerous times and on short runs between 1 to 4 miles I get between 45mpg and 52mpg as indicated on the trip computer, never get higher than 3rd gear, outside temp. between -2c to 2c. On a 24 mile run driving up and down hills on A & B roads at varying speeds I get around an indicated 54mpg which is pretty close to what a Focus 1.6 TDCi does over the same route using the trip computer.

The Fiesta owner’s manual mentions the first 1000 miles are the running in period, fuel economy readings will more be accurate between 2000 and 3000 miles.

I haven't yet done a really long run and a tank to tank comparison as I'm not currently doing that type of driving and the car is still in the running in period.

Ok so far so good, well not really, the EcoBoost engine isn't so good between 1400 to 1600 rpm, it booms a bit and it's slightly gruff, either side of that rev range it's smooth right to the rev limit, although I haven't taken it that far I know others who have who say it's smooth. Now here's the problem, 1400 rpm is where max torque begins and it's around where 4th gear would be useful when pottering along around 30mph. However, although the instant fuel economy will show a more frugal return in 4th the engine is happier in 3rd gear which is how I drive it.

Now Ford obviously know about this "feature" as they have mapped the gear change indicator arrow to vary slightly between gear changes to allow for slightly differing gear ratios as well as attempting to drive around this boom/gruff rev range. Having said that, I have been informed that as the miles build the boom/gruff rev range will subside; I was told that about the VW Polo 1.2 TDI engine (which is much more gruff) but it never got any better as the mileage increased.

Time will tell whether this 1.0 EcoBoost engine losses its slight boom/gruff rev range and whether all the technical effort invested to provide engine balance etc. actually fully delivers & performs in the real world when driven & used by thousands/millions of people.

Ford's new 3 cylinder EcoBoost 1.0 engine - unthrottled

That does sound promising. The gruffness around 1500RPM is annoying, but a lot of engines are a bit rough at that speed,

Ford's new 3 cylinder EcoBoost 1.0 engine - Galaxy

Hope it's a bit more successful than Ford's two stroke engine that they introduced for testing several years ago.

I read at the time they were fitting them into Fiesta sized police cars; never ever heard anything further. I can only presume they didn't work. I believe this was the engine which was destined to be fitted to the Ford Ka, but they had to use the mark 2 Escort engine instead.

Edit...............Just watched the video. I see it's still got a horizontally mounted oil filter which is slightly inclined downwards, so all the oil runs out everywhere when you do an oil change! I'll be the designers have never even done an oil change.

Edited by Galaxy on 20/01/2013 at 09:13

Ford's new 3 cylinder EcoBoost 1.0 engine - thirts
In the next year to eighteen months I will be looking at replacing our Focus with the new Fiesta, hopefully by then this new engine will tried and tested and will hopefully have a good reputation.

As we'll be doing a lot of short journeys and cold starts I hope this new design can cope with that type of driving, which I believe is far more demanding of an engine than blasting up and down motorways
Ford's new 3 cylinder EcoBoost 1.0 engine - MikeTorque

The engine is fitted with stop/start technology so it will be getting a lot more stop/starts than the average engine. The system defaults to being turned on, it can be turned off/on by the push of a button. The stop/start system kicks in quite quickly as long as there is enough juice in the battery and the engine is warm enough.

The stop/start system will also automatically restart the engine whenever the system decides it needs to, which can be somewhat surprising the first time it happens. The user manual mentions this but it doesn’t specify the exact conditions that trigger such an event, which I consider a documentation omission.

At least in theory it's been designed for stop/start driving.

Ford's new 3 cylinder EcoBoost 1.0 engine - bathtub tom

>>The stop/start system will also automatically restart the engine whenever the system decides it needs to, which can be somewhat surprising the first time it happens. The user manual mentions this but it doesn’t specify the exact conditions that trigger such an event, which I consider a documentation omission.

And how many bother TRFM?

Ford's new 3 cylinder EcoBoost 1.0 engine - Avant

In case anybody wonders, TRFM means 'to read the flippin' manual' !

Ford's new 3 cylinder EcoBoost 1.0 engine - Happy Blue!

RTFM

Read the ************ manual

The asteriks can mean what you want them to mean!

Ford's new 3 cylinder EcoBoost 1.0 engine - thirts

The engine is fitted with stop/start technology so it will be getting a lot more stop/starts than the average engine.

That's not the same as lot's of cold starts and short runs where the engine bearly gets hot

Ford's new 3 cylinder EcoBoost 1.0 engine - daveyK_UK

Is the focus 1.0 engine connected to a different gear box than the Fiesta?

Why all the Focus 1.0 clutch problems and yet very few with the Fiesta?

Ford's new 3 cylinder EcoBoost 1.0 engine - Avant

I think the Focus has a 6-speed gearbox, the Fiesta only 5.

Ford's new 3 cylinder EcoBoost 1.0 engine - dogdays

I think you find find its because people cannot judge the revs when pulling away, and slip the clutch excessively.I say this as the rpm is not obvious on this engine and people can be very heavy footed with a car with light pedals. It took me a bit to get used to the clutch bite,also they may be riding the clutch at the lights to stop the engine cutting out. Please remember some folk really cannot drive a car very well, listen in supermarket car park some time.

Ford's new 3 cylinder EcoBoost 1.0 engine - daveyK_UK

Avoid 6 speed 1.0 ecoboosts!

Is this the gearbox that is fitted to the ford focus and ford mondeo with the 1.0 ecoboost?