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Suzuki Swift - mpg and black oil - iain073

My swift is 8 months old with under 7000 on clock and i have noticed a decrease in mpg. I am only getting 51 instead of 68. Its a 1.3 diesel 2012. I checked the oil and this is black which is not right for the age and mileage. Any ideas?

Suzuki Swift - mpg and black oil - Dabooka

My swift is 8 months old with under 7000 on clock and i have noticed a decrease in mpg. I am only getting 51 instead of 68. Its a 1.3 diesel 2012. I checked the oil and this is black which is not right for the age and mileage. Any ideas?

Mileage does drop off quite a bit in the winter, but not that much; can I ask if your mpg is indicated or calculated by yourself?

And black sludgy oil sounds about right for any diesel!

Suzuki Swift - mpg and black oil - iain073

Thanks for reply, mpg is worked out by myself, the car showed 53 mpg. Didn't realise the oil would be black in a diesel.

Suzuki Swift - mpg and black oil - MikeTorque

Some diesel engines turn the oil black quite quickly, the more modern designs tend to keep the engine cleaner for longer. I'm not sure how the Swift 1.3 diesel performs regarding the oil colour.

mpg does fall during colder weather as well as varying driving/weather conditions. It's worth considering an oil & filter change. With 7000 miles on the clock it's done a reasonable mileage and changing the oil & oil filter can only be good for the engine. If it was me I'd change them.

Suzuki Swift - mpg and black oil - MrEckerslikefromRamsbottom

I agree - we all notice increased fuel consumption from late November when the oil companies switch to Winter diesel. In fact, it's only this year that I've read this, and on the Honest John forum! I always thought it was due to using the lights and heater more - and yet the fuel consumption difference always seemed far more extreme than that. As for the oil - I've been driving diesels for over ten years now, and I've found myself changing the oil more often than the manufacturer recommends because it goes black and sludgy so quickly - mainly down to the dreaded Exhaust Gas Recirculation valve!

There are those who boast of their oil staying clean longer due to adding a slug of two-stroke oil to the diesel when filling up.

(See www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=75391 ).

I've been putting in the 200:1 mix of 2T for three months now and it does give a cleaner burn - I don't see smoke in the rear-view mirror any more. I wish that I'd known about this years ago.

Suzuki Swift - mpg and black oil - MikeTorque

I would not recommend adding 2 stroke oil to the fuel of a modern diesel engined car that is within the warranty period. Manufacturers of cars often mention that nothing be added to the engine oil.

Were anything to happen to the engine etc., irrespective of cause, a warranty claim could be declined and all costs become the responsibility of the owner/driver of the car.

Suzuki Swift - mpg and black oil - Dabooka

Agree 100%, if it's under warranty you'd be a LOON to do anything than the recommendations.

Suzuki Swift - mpg and black oil - focussed

If the engine oil on any diesel or petrol is black or turning black, it merely means that the oil is doing the job it was designed to do - holding the products of combustion in suspension.

If it doesn't turn black, it's time to worry.

Suzuki Swift - mpg and black oil - Peter.N.

I would concur, diesel engine oil is high in detergent which helps keep the engine clean but most modern diesel servicing schedules leave the oil in for far to long, change it now if you want the engine to last.

The temperatures effect on fuel consumption was well illustrated in May this year when we went to the far north of Scotland, on the way up the temperature was just above freezing and my average consumption was just over 60 mpg, halfway through our holiday the temp shot up to 25C+ and on the return journey averaged 67.3. over about 650 miles.

The car was a Peugeot 406 2.0.Hdi and I do drive very carefully, rarely over 60 mph or 2000 rpm.

Suzuki Swift - mpg and black oil - daveyjp
If you do lots of round town/short trips diesel mpg will suffer in winter.
Suzuki Swift - mpg and black oil - unthrottled

when the oil companies switch to Winter diesel. In fact, it's only this year that I've read this, and on the Honest John forum! I always thought it was due to using the lights and heater mor

The calorific valvue of winter diesel is not significantly different from summer blends. The difference in economy lies in extra friction from the colder temperatures, more surface water on the roads, and of course extra use of electrical accessories.

Suzuki Swift - mpg and black oil - skidpan

Has your mpg dropped from 68 to 51 or are you saying you are not getting the EU official average of almost 68 mpg. From your original psot its not clear.

The official combined average for a Suzuki Swift diesel is actually 67.3 mpg. If you were getting 68 mpg you were one of a very small minority of car owners actually bettering the official combined figure. In all the cars I have owned the only time I have approached the official ombined is on a very long (400+ miles) run in good conditions mainly on motorways.

In the real world the most people get is about 20% under the official combined, this calculates as 53.8 mpg.

So I honestly think there is nothing wrong and you were expecting more than was realistically possible.

Edited by skidpan on 30/12/2012 at 13:58

Suzuki Swift - mpg and black oil - 1litregolfeater

Both fantastic mpgs, in my opinion.

I must get a car like this soon with the price of fuel.