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BMW 5 Series E60 - High rate of battery discharge & starting problems - BMW530d

Hi there, I wonder if anyone is able to help and provide advice. I bought a 2005/05 BMW 530d M-Sport at the weekend that is in great condition, with full service history and all of the paperwork. It drives like a dream.

As I was driving it home from where I bought it, and sitting in heavy London traffic, the i-drive popped up suddenly to say "central electronics failure - you are unable to continue your journey. Please contact BMW" (or words to that effect). Not knowing quite what to do as I was sitting at a red light, the message then vanished and I continued my journey. There didn't appear to be anything untoward with the car. I checked the i-drive diagnostics and it had no errors whatsoever. That message has not appeared since.

On Sunday morning, when the car was cold, I started it up and it was very sluggish to get going. Once it fired up, it was absolutely fine. However, I noticed a message on the i-drive system stating "high rate of battery discharge". We drove to Winchester for the day and the car was absolutely fine, once again. We parked up all day, it started fine at the end of the day and drove home.

I next used the car on Tuesday, but when I went to start it, it just turned over and over. I kept trying but nothing fired, and the battery then went dead. I called out the RAC who did all of their checks. The battery was changed in October 2012 with the correct battery, as verified by Euro Car Parts. The battery condition was fine - holding charge, charging fine, etc. There is no issue with the alternator. When he jumped the car off his van, it fired straight up, but was still a bit sluggish to get going. There was a small puff of smoke from the engine as it started, which I am assuming is unusual.

Once running, there were no error messages at all on the i-drive. The RAC chap suggested a local, independent BMW specialist who could help find the fault with the car. Clearly there was a history of starting problems as the battery terminals had marks on them where it has previously been jump started. I followed the RAC to the garage. The RAC chap (who was brilliant, I might add) went through all of the diagnostics with the chap at the garage, and I agreed to leave my car with them.

The garage got around to looking at the car this morning and they have called me to say that they ran all of the diagnostics and the starter motor is the likely cause. They are unable to do any further diagnostics until the starter motor is replaced, which I have authorised.

I am not technically minded at all, but would anyone else in the know with these cars know if the starter motor could send these messages of electronic failure and high rates of battery discharge to the i-drive?

Both the garage and RAC have been very helpful so far, but I just have this inner fear that I'm paying to have the starter motor replaced (which it probably needs to be anyway, as it is sluggish on turn over) but there may still be an underlying electrical fault with the car that might need resolving.

Any other similar stories or solutions would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks.

BMW 5 Series E60 - High rate of battery discharge & starting problems - elekie&a/c doctor

Starter motor is possible,but from experience more likely to be a battery or charging fault.Alternators on these are suspect as are the battery earth leads that connect to the battery .There is a smart sensor attached to it,make sure the connector (blue from memory)is clean and dry.It is usually hooked up behind the o/s/r wing lamp.hth

BMW 5 Series E60 - High rate of battery discharge & starting problems - Peter.N.

Connect a meter across the battery, with the engine running it sould read about 14.4 volts, much less and you have an alternator problem.

BMW 5 Series E60 - High rate of battery discharge & starting problems - BMW530d

Thanks - done all of that with the RAC man. We had 14.4 volts, all in order. I got the car back today with a new starter motor and it is starting significantly better than it did. So the old starter was on the way out and, because there appears to be a separate power leakage issue, the starter was pulling too much power to get going and the car wouldn't go. So I'm pleased I've changed the starter as it fires up like a new car now. However, the 'high rate of battery discharge' warning is still there and the technician explained that I am losing 0.5 amps over night. They know it definitely isn't from the rear of the car where the battery and fuses are, it is somewhere at the front. Almost certainly something not going to sleep like it should. It could be the radio, CD changer, etc. Anyway I needed the car back today as we are going away but I will book it back in after Christmas and get it seen to. The garage kindly gave me a battery jumper on loan to see how long it might take for the battery to go flat! The good news is it is solvable, just time was against me this week, and the garage is fully booked and I jumped the queue! Superb service though.

BMW 5 Series E60 - High rate of battery discharge & starting problems - Collos25

.5 of an amp is a lot to use but having said that it is only 6 amps in 12 hours there should still be plenty of power left to start the car properly many times providing everything else is tip top.

BMW 5 Series E60 - High rate of battery discharge & starting problems - Dave0711
0.5 Amp is equivalent to 6Watts ie a bulb (bootlight?) It can take 70 mins for an E60 to go fully to sleep by which time the current should not exceed 50mA. You should see the green light on the rear window safety switch go out after 15 mins which is the first stage of sleep. There is an Intelligent Battery Sensor on the negative terminal whose function is to measure current in and out of the battery and switch off loads intelligently to ensure that there is always enough juice left to start the car. This is the reason that a new battery should be 'registered' and an external charger should be connected only to the jump start terminals. My IBS has failed according to diagnostics with no untoward effect although I used to see high current messages occasionally but not for a while. Control units can get into a state where they dont go to sleep. Diagnostics will tell you which ones but at a cost. Easier to try resetting them all by disconnecting battery for a while but you will then lose stored fault codes. Bottom line- It isn't possible for off load current to be checked at the roadside accurately. There is also a recall on these cars for battery cable checks, you should get a letter any day soon. Hope it helps.
BMW 5 Series E60 - High rate of battery discharge & starting problems - Peter.N.

Has it been fitted with a different radio/CD, that can cause problems with the ECU which can discharge the battery.