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Volvo S40 - car change - Andy Taylor

My Volvo S40 is now nearly 7 years old, and has covered 75K miles. This year it will need a full brake overhaul and 4 new tyres, estimated cost around £1000. As the car is worth less than £4k, I have to decide whether or not to spend the cash and keep it, or change it.

I like the new V40, but am not prepared to buy a new one. I'm very tempted by the Citroen C4, having in the past had a Xantia 1.9D which covered 95K miles without a single fault. A brilliant car!

What is your view of the C4? I'm retired, and cover about 8K miles p.a, and need to carry two sets of golf clubs. I'm looking at the 1.6HDi, at a year old or less.

Best regards

Andy Taylor, Nottingham

Volvo S40 - car change - gordonbennet

If you want a new car then it makes sense not to spend any more on your present one.

If you however like your present car and are happy to keep another few years then the parts you require are only consumables that any and every car needs, though i qustion the cost involved, unless you have a T4 £300 at most will buy you a set of high quality boots and another £300 (£400 tops) should redisk and repad it all round.

Your mileage and driving pattern may not suit a modern Diesel car, Xantia generation Diesels were superb (similar Pug 405's used to run 250k regularly with just servicing), things have moved on (backwards) since then, fast and frugal they now are, but horrendously complex now and not as robust, when they go wrong the costs can be eye watering.

Volvo S40 - car change - Collos25

Your 1k is a little bit on the top side in fact its a lot on the top side half it and you will be somewhere near.

At 8k a year the last thing you want is a HDI in fact you do not want a diesel full stop maybe C4 petrol would be a much better bet.

Volvo S40 - car change - thunderbird

8,000 miles a year is fine for a diesel, had my BMW for nearly 5 years with no issues. At £6.00 a gallon I have saved myself about £2300 in fuel and £100 in RFL a year, total £2700. The car was £300 more than the equivalent petrol when new thus the saving is down to £2400. According to Parkers my car is now worth £220 more than the petrol thus the saving is up to £2620. Servicing costs are identical.

OK, one day I might have a problem but its going to have to be a big one if its eats up the savings I have already made. Petrols are not immune from problems either.

On top of that a modern diesel drives way better than a modern non-turbo petrol which I find incredibly tiresome due to their lack of torque.

Edited by thunderbird on 02/12/2012 at 14:37

Volvo S40 - car change - 72 dudes

I would say spend the money and keep the car for another two to three years. Shop around for the work required, maybe seek out a good independent or a Volvo specialist to keep costs down.

The C4 is an OK car but it's not an S40.

Volvo S40 - car change - Collos25

8,000 miles a year is fine for a diesel, had my BMW for nearly 5 years with no issues.

Its an HDi with a DPF only 8k a year will kill it.

Volvo S40 - car change - thunderbird

8,000 miles a year is fine for a diesel, had my BMW for nearly 5 years with no issues.

Its an HDi with a DPF only 8k a year will kill it.

No it won't. My BMW has a dpf and not had a problem. Did a regen driving to a x-mass fair this morning, completed it on the way back. No need to thrash it or drive for hours on the motorway. It just gets on with it.

If I was only driving to the school and shops it would be a different matter of course.

Volvo S40 - car change - Bobbin Threadbare

8,000 miles a year is fine for a diesel, had my BMW for nearly 5 years with no issues.

Its an HDi with a DPF only 8k a year will kill it.

No it won't. My BMW has a dpf and not had a problem. Did a regen driving to a x-mass fair this morning, completed it on the way back. No need to thrash it or drive for hours on the motorway. It just gets on with it.

If I was only driving to the school and shops it would be a different matter of course.

It's the 'lots of short journeys from cold starts' that kills a DPF. If you do 8000 miles p.a. of longer jaunts it ought to do its re-gens with no problems. Whether the saving on VED/pricier fuel/increased mpg balances out for low mileage is another matter....

Volvo S40 - car change - Collos25

The DPF in a HDi is completely different to the one fitted to BMWs of 5 years ago the HDi uses eloys the BMW does not plus its of completely different construction,a lot of short journeys to the golf club will do a HDi no good at all it will not bother a 5 year old BMW.

Edited by Collos25 on 02/12/2012 at 16:44

Volvo S40 - car change - thunderbird

Whether the saving on VED/pricier fuel/increased mpg balances out for low mileage is another matter....

Read my first post, I calculate I have saved over £2500 in 5 years with the 118D instead of the 118i. Its a saving worth having.

Volvo S40 - car change - unthrottled

As the car is worth less than £4k, I have to decide whether or not to spend the cash and keep it, or change it.

Tyres and brakes are consumables. If your quandry is an economic one, you need only look at absolute costs. The cost of renewing tyres and brakes bears no relation to the value of the car. If you're looking to change, you need not concern yourself with the maintainance costys of your current car.

Volvo S40 - car change - jamie745

Replacing the car every time it needs brakes is an expensive business.