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Impending hosepipe bans - Ben 10

I understand the need to conserve water during this drought, but how fair is it? If I wash my car from my hose and outside tap, I could get a fine. If a commercial valeter calls to wash my car, he uses my hose and doesn't?

Legally, could I wriggle out of such a fine. Their criteria for informing the public is to have published in a couple of daily newspapers, a few local rags, the internet and TV news. What if I have not had access to any of these and I really don't know there is a ban on?

My defence would be that my bill is sent to my address and my contract with my water company is between our two addresses. I would demand that they either post a restriction or put a relevant leaflet through my door. That way I cannot avoid the advice. It would also be cheaper than publishing in press, or is that free under the circumstances which means they are too tight to letter out.

As it stands, are they on a sticky wicket when it comes down to fines? The reservoir near me, Shepperton, is full to the brim!

Impending hosepipe bans - RT

I live in an area that always had a private water company, before privatisation of the main water companies, and it's proud to boast that it's never, ever, implemented a hosepipe ban.

The problem is that much of the population crams into the south-east corner of England and then uses far more water than falls locally, specifically in an area of lower rainfall.

Is it just a small percentage of the UK population that even consider environmental sustainability ??

Edited by RT on 01/04/2012 at 17:55

Impending hosepipe bans - Ben 10
During the early 90s we moved into an area operated by North Surrey water company. During many hosepipe bans during that time, Thames Water had many, when N. Surrey never had. So even then in the SE we could cope.
Until now, because we are part of a larger area operated by Veolia. As I said, the reservoir that was once N. Surrey, is full to brim.
Impending hosepipe bans - bathtub tom

Legally, could I wriggle out of such a fine. Their criteria for informing the public is to have published in a couple of daily newspapers, a few local rags, the internet and TV news. What if I have not had access to any of these and I really don't know there is a ban on?

My defence would be that my bill is sent to my address

You admit you're aware of the ban, but you want to ignore it?

Ignorance of the law is no defence.

Have you considered how selfish it would be to use a hose when everyone else is obeying the restriction?

Impending hosepipe bans - Bobbin Threadbare

Get a water butt. Or come and live in the NW. Actually don't. I like being able to use my hosepipe.

Impending hosepipe bans - Ben 10

My butts not big enough ;-)I'll hire a bowser and fill up from yours then. Cheers!

Impending hosepipe bans - Ben 10
Seriously though, this section is for legal advice. There appears to be a lack of professional advisors on such topics since Lucy B disappeared. Either we get hold of a genuine legal eagle to pass on their knowledge buck shee or we scrap this section altogether. Armchair experts and critics doesn't work IMO and all it generates is harping from those wanting a dig or think they know whats best.
Impending hosepipe bans - FP

I think you'll find there are contributors who are qualified - for example DVD, unless I'm much mistaken. Some would argue that LucyBC didn't always do a good job anyway.

However, your point is a good one and the absence of a voice of authority able to comment and advise on any legal matter quickly is a shortcoming.

Impending hosepipe bans - Singvogel

I have no hose pipe ban but .........I do have a big blue water-butt and a power washer which sucks the water out of it.

If I lived in the ban area I would be perfectly entitled to fill up the butt with buckets of water from my outside tap.

It's actually suprising how little water I use - less than half the butt usually.

S.

Impending hosepipe bans - Bromptonaut


As it stands, are they on a sticky wicket when it comes down to fines? The reservoir near me, Shepperton, is full to the brim!

I think the water company's wicket is a sticky free zone.

The ban has only a nodding acquaintance with your contract - certainly not a variation of it. Drought orders are made under legislation and your contract whether explicitly or not is subject to the legislation. Your wicket on the other hand would be stickier than a very sticky place!!

Shepperton reservoir may be full because water is pumped in from elsewhere

Edited by Bromptonaut on 06/04/2012 at 19:01

Impending hosepipe bans - RT

Many reservoirs, perhaps the big majority, aren't used for collecting water from rainfall or stream feeders but for storing water pumped up from rivers, not necessarily that close. That way winter rainfall in rivers can be stored for use later in the year - at least that's the theory.

There's a considerable amount of water moved around by pipeline - for instance water falling on the mountains of Wales is collected in the Elan Valley reservoirs and pumped to Birmingham for consumption there - in Birmingham, the ground water no longer needed by heavy industry is pumped into the River Tame which flows into the River Trent but before it gets to the Humber it's extracted and stored in Lincolnshire for local use.

Big urban areas create their own problem - the ever-increasing amount of residential and commercial property stops water being absorbed into the ground yet the same increasing development uses more and more water. It's easy for everyone outside the South-East to sit back, point the finger and say it's your own fault!