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Low Insurance Cars - Young/New Drivers - LTAAD714

Hello Guys,

I'm currently 18 and have just started learning to drive about 1 month ago and my instructor says I'm making good progress, so I'm just starting to look around for a car.

I have £2000 MAX to spend on the car, but would prefer to stay around £1200-£1500 because obviously any money left over can be put towards petrol/insurance.

Obviously as a first car I want it to be reletivly fun/easy to drive and if possible comfortable.

What do you guys think?

Just to give you guys a rough idea of the type of cars I would consider "low insurance":

- 1.0L Corsa C

- 2002 Seat Arosa 1.0L

Low Insurance Cars - Young/New Drivers - Bobbin Threadbare

I would stay away from the Corsa - nasty little car.

Your insurance is probably going to be over £1000 and you'll have to scrap any notions of having anything cool, anything with performance and anything quite new.

I've stuck some examples of what you can get - most of the cars around this price range which are low insurance are Renault Clios.

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20121045487...p

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20113841708...p

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20120845228...p

One of my sisters is learning to drive at the mo - she has found the Ford Ka to be the best all rounder; it's insurance group 2.

Have a scan over this: www.parkers.co.uk/cars/advice/car-insurance-groups/

Some of them might be a bit new but it'll give you an idea.

Low Insurance Cars - Young/New Drivers - Graham567

Have you tried entering cars into a insurance comparison web site?

I have just insured my son on his own policy who has just passed his test.His car is a group 1 Peugeot 107 998cc and the cheapest we have got is £2500 TPF&T.

I have tried over many nights trying different cars,ie corsa's,clio's,panda's etc all one litre and the insurance has been coming back as £3000-£3500 on those cars.Only the Aygo,Citreon C1 and Peugeot 107 clones came back as the cheapest.

Also insurance for while your learning to drive isn't too bad at approx £800 but as soon as you pass your test it shoots up into the thousands.

I live in a good area and have done all the usual tricks like adding my wife and i to the policy.

Also my sons friend,who is a girl of the same age, has just bought a Kia Picanto and has insured it for £1200.I entered the same car,same age and same post code but changed the sex to male........£3500!! for him.

Also,just for a laugh,i entered him to drive my 2.0 litre Ford Mondeo and it came back as....wait for it.....

£15,500!!!!!

All i can say to the original poster is good luck.You'll need it.

Low Insurance Cars - Young/New Drivers - HandCart

If the insurance is going to be so expensive, it might be worth considering cars that can be had for around the £500 mark.

Is the 1.0 Corsa actually 'nasty'? Isn't that a reliable Suzuki engine? And won't any required parts be cheap and plentiful and available as patterns? (all counts, if the biggest single cost of motoring is the insurance.)

What about an old Micra? A Perodua Nippa / Daewoo Matiz (both 800cc)?

What about an Allegro / Morris Minor? (tatty but roadworthy examples available under a grand.)

Low Insurance Cars - Young/New Drivers - Ethan Edwards

What about a Citroen AX 1.0 they were a hoot to drive and cheap as chips to run. They made them up to 97 (I think). Still a few around (couple of hundred quid mark) and they might qualify for 'Classic car' insurance. Why not check it out.

Low Insurance Cars - Young/New Drivers - unthrottled

Pick a car with a engine that has only 8 valves. The insurance grouping is much lower, but they are almost as good to drive as their 16 valve equivalents. Peugeot, VW, Renault and Volkswagen made them up to about the year 2000.

Low Insurance Cars - Young/New Drivers - ChannelZ

Is the 1.0 Corsa actually 'nasty'? Isn't that a reliable Suzuki engine? And won't any required parts be cheap and plentiful and available as patterns? (all counts, if the biggest single cost of motoring is the insurance.)

No, it's a GM Family 0 engine with one cylinder lopped off. It's a horrid little thing that isn't even fit to be a boat anchor. It's got nothing to do with Suzuki.

As for parts, apart from sensors which you'll be feeding it monthly, when the engine actually dies around 80k, they're scrap. Head gaskets go, and when they go they're not worth fixing. Camshafts are butter.

Really, I'd rather walk than drive one of those s***boxes. The 1.2 Corsa is miserable too. The old 1.4 HiTorq 65hp engine is far better in the Corsa B.

Low Insurance Cars - Young/New Drivers - HandCart

I stand corrected (although a colleague's wife has had one for many years and had next to no trouble apart from something once broke on the gearlever linkage).

Beginning to get off-topic, but did the 1.0 Corsa B have a suzuki engine then?

Low Insurance Cars - Young/New Drivers - Bobbin Threadbare

Is the 1.0 Corsa actually 'nasty'? Isn't that a reliable Suzuki engine? And won't any required parts be cheap and plentiful and available as patterns? (all counts, if the biggest single cost of motoring is the insurance.)

No, it's a GM Family 0 engine with one cylinder lopped off. It's a horrid little thing that isn't even fit to be a boat anchor. It's got nothing to do with Suzuki.


Cheers for the back-up Channel Z. I learnt to drive in one <shudder> damned uncomfortable!

Not something I'd ever buy....! I don't often express outright hatred like that but they are pants.

Low Insurance Cars - Young/New Drivers - HandCart

Strange - because in HJ's Car-by-car section he states that both the Corsa B and the Corsa C's 1.0 12V engine is a Suzuki item. Is he wrong, then?

And "uncomfortable"? -The colleague I mentioned who's wife has a Corsa C, he has an Astra H. I also have an Astra H, but recently had cause to drive a 300 mile trip in a 1.2 Corsa C. And one thing my colleague and I are firmly agreed on is that the driving seat in the Corsa C is a darn sight more comfortable than the awful seat in the Astra H, which has us both scratching our heads as to how Vauxhall got it so wrong.

Low Insurance Cars - Young/New Drivers - Wicker

Perhaps a little expensive for you, you can get cheaper examples, but I have picked a VW Fox out in the same colour as my son's car (he is 18). http://tinyurl.com/7xxunly

It was the only car we could reasonably insure him on whilst he was 17 (we used NFU).



Low Insurance Cars - Young/New Drivers - Graham567

In reply to the poster that surgested a Citroen AX i have just entered to details of one into my sons price comparison quote.The price was £2,565.02.

I think the original poster won't get insurance for ANY car for less than £2,500.Sad but true.

Low Insurance Cars - Young/New Drivers - Ethan Edwards

Was that a 'Classic Car Insurance Site' videodoctor...I did say classic.

http://www.adrianflux.co.uk/blog/2007/06/top-ten-cars-for-teens-cheapest-young.html

and not the GTi one. think it was called 'Debut' 1.0 litre.

Edited by Ethan Edwards on 14/03/2012 at 16:06

Low Insurance Cars - Young/New Drivers - Graham567

The premise of driving an old classic and getting cheap insurance for a teenager is rubbish.The site is hopelessly out of date.I entered a classic 1965-1972 VW Beetle into my sons comparison site and it came back with £2907 as the cheapest.

I spent over a week looking at all cars and their insurance for my son and have not seen anything what-so-ever under £2500 for the insurance at 18.

Only the Toyota Aygo and clones came back as the nearest to two and a half grand.

I have done all the usual things like adding additional drivers,keeping the annual mileage down and trying different cars.I have tried online,ringing insurance companies and black box schemes.Other than selling my soul to the devil,i cannot find it any cheaper.

If you know a cheaper way then let me know but insurance has gone through the roof for youngsters.No wonder they are driving without insurance.

Low Insurance Cars - Young/New Drivers - HandCart

"I entered a classic 1965-1972 VW Beetle into my sons comparison site"

But did you actually get a quote from Adrian Flux? And did you try several comparison sites, plus companies that aren't on comparison sites?

I'm not having a go at you Videodoctor - but I searched through several comparison sites last year for my insurance and my wife's insurance, and the quotes from the same ultimate insurer were not always the same across comparison sites, plus despite the same address/drivers/overnight parking arrangement etc etc, there was a marked difference between which companies came back with good quotes and which ones came back with ridiculous ones, seemingly just because of the actual car. In fact I'm sure one or more companies which were ridiculous for one car were amongst the cheapest for the other!

There didn't seem to be much pattern to it - so there appeared to be no option but just to trawl through every possible quote, if you wanted to be pretty sure you weren't going to unearth a yet-cheaper one.

Low Insurance Cars - Young/New Drivers - TeeCee

Totally correct.

The comparison sites only deal with mainstream insurers who either do not insure cars over n years old or "load" classics.

The only way to evaluate classic insurance costs is by going directly to the specialists.

I love insurance comparison sites, they mean that those of us prepared to ring around can get a good deal while the insurance industry makes its money by fleecing lazy sheep. This does not just apply to classics. I remember that when I had the V8 Discovery, the cheapest comparison site offer was about 1500 quid. A broker that specialised in offroad vehicles came in at a shade over 700.

You have to remember that the comparison sites make their money by taking a bung off the broker when a quote via them gets converted into a policy. Guess where that bung comes from?

Low Insurance Cars - Young/New Drivers - Bobbin Threadbare

A friend of mine ran a Citroen AX - 'P' reg. The only trouble with them is that the wheels are really easy to remove (she had hers robbed twice) and parts would now be running out. It wouldn't die, but she put it in for the scrappage scheme to get a car with a drivers seat which would actually slide, and a working radio.

Low Insurance Cars - Young/New Drivers - jc2

Not mentioned by anyone else-KA-but have a look under it first.

Low Insurance Cars - Young/New Drivers - Graham567

@ Handcart.

The above quotes are just a quick representation of the general prices for these cars.

The price comparison sites are a good start and 'yes' ringing insurers generally gets a lower quote but from my experience of the whole thing its only by a couple of hundred quid.

What i am getting at is that if quoted £2700 for a car on a comparison site then no matter how hard you try your not going to get it for say £1500.A few hundred quid less 'yes' but not enough to make a big difference.

A bike would be cheaper :-)

Low Insurance Cars - Young/New Drivers - Paul G1pdc

I don't know if its still the case, but a chap at work was in the same boat last year, they looked at cheap small engined cars but in the end he was given a V40 estate 1.8 petrol by his mum.....

insurance was bought through Admiral with there dual car policy, ie one policy with more than one car listed and more than one driver....ie the dad with his shogun and the son with the volvo are both on one policy...

worked for them. might be worth looking into..

paul.

(my 9 year old is car nut, with posters of EVOs on his wall etc...but when we see a old micra in the carpark i remind him that for a first car thats what he'll be driving.....) and also him being a type1 diabetic his insurance will be loaded to the hilt....

Low Insurance Cars - Young/New Drivers - injection doc

The cheapest car to insure for my daughters was a Citreon C1. Now strangley enough it was even cheaper to insure a brandnew one than an older secondhand one!

My Daughter at 19 got brandnew one insured for 323.00 in her name fully comp .VW polo was £1400. Golf was£2200

My nephew has just tried insuring a car at 18, we tried old classics, even Landrover 2a's but all £3000-£9000 he Bought new Citreon C1 and the insurance was £2800 .

If we changed his address to different pist code the premium dropped so Post code does effect insurance as well.

good luck.

Whilst i dont condone it I can understand why some people are buying a £500 banger and not bothering with insurance. Untill they make the penalty severe its gonna happen.

Often the fine is only £250 quid & penalty points !

Low Insurance Cars - Young/New Drivers - diddy1234

yeh hardly incentive to comply with the law when your insurance could be thousands a year.

Yet again another example of how to 'play the system'

Low Insurance Cars - Young/New Drivers - 1litregolfeater

The 1 litre Corsa is a dream on wheels, get that EGR blocked off and change the oil.

Really it's not so much the car, but the age of the motorist, and to a an extent, the area they live in, that they're basing their risk on.

You have 3 options.

1. Move into the countryside, somewhere nice. Will bring it down quite a bit.

2. Get older. Wait until you're 40.

3. Use your imagination. Add all manner of relatives to the policy, including siblings with provisional licences.

4. Think along the lines of Admiral/Elephant or Quinn, if they're still competitive.

Low Insurance Cars - Young/New Drivers - 1litregolfeater

Oh yeah there is another option available for those of the male sex.

But it involves an irreversible surgical operation.

Low Insurance Cars - Young/New Drivers - Bobbin Threadbare

A friend of mine has just passed his test; he's finding quotes of close to £2k for these tiny little cars. He's 28......

Low Insurance Cars - Young/New Drivers - unthrottled

I think my first policy was under £800. This was on a 1.6 Corolla. I was 23. It was a 'special' third party only (no fire and theft), but still.

Something's gone very wrong. You can't tell me that the average cost of a young person's claim has increased by a factor of three or four in 6 years.

The market doesn't seem to be working.

Low Insurance Cars - Young/New Drivers - Bobbin Threadbare

My first very own insurance on my 1.6 Focus after passing (with husband on policy) was £480 ish, at 24.5 years of age. We're talking 2008 here.

Sister is trying the same; she's 25 and will be using a Clio. £1500 is the least she could find.

The jump in prices is ridiculous!