There's one like this in Lancaster. Some enterprising soul has put an old dining chair out with a rectangular bedroom mirror tied to it with blue twine. Nobody has touched it, council or otherwise!

With the amount of tax we pay in this country you shouldnt have to buy your own mirror.

You may find that if the mirror causes injury to a person those who erected it would be held liable.

Back to the original post, at a company where I worked cars that parked on the road outside made seeing approaching traffic impossible. Added to that a bus stop was moved when developments took place further up the road and this made matters worse. One of the senior managers contacted the County Council and asked if double yellows could be painted. He recieved a letter explaining that since there had been no fatalities they were not in a position to paint double yellows, we were stunned that a Council Official would be stupid enough to state that in writing, would have made great press.

I left the company a short while after but I passed the site one morning and a refuse waggon had collided with a bus that was trying to pull out passed parked cars. There are now double yellows, improved visibilty splays and a revised bus stop.

I know of places with convex mirrors at blind junctions on public roads.

Saying it is not DfT approved is a red herring. It doesn't have to be any more than a litter bin or daffodil does.

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Edited by Hamsafar on 13/02/2012 at 20:05

Decide what exactly it is you want and construct a logical structured argument to justify it. By all means identify and play on flaws in your opponents case but eschew emotion and rhetoric. Above all, don't let it get personal.

If the traffic authority Council's officers dont want to konw try engaging with the elected Councillors.

Is there a Parish or Town Council who will support you? What about the local press?

Failing all of those is your MP any use - particularly if the Council are blaming DfT requirements for their failure to do anything.

Opening your window and listening can be advantageous. You may not be able to see but can often hear a vehicle approaching. :)

Bit of a bump this one......

The junction is still a right pain in the butt, but recently I was in Wales and on some of the roads there were mirrors erected that seemed to be "official". By that, they had red striped white surrounds and as there were several of them, I am presuming that it is council erected.

Does anyone know any more about the official stand point of these mirrors?

Although mirrors are occasionally seen on some roads, these have usually been put up on private land and would not have been provided by the highway authority. Experience shows that mirrors can reduce the ability to judge another oncoming vehicle's speed.

So I guess that is a no then

Looks like No in England. Devolution means the rules in Wales may be different.

I've suggested ideas to improve junctions where we've lived in a couple of authorities after minor collisions occurred. They always trot out the line "there are no statistics, i.e. road deaths, for that particular junction", so your suggestion is binned. Even though we live with a particular problem, they are so stubborn to listen and improve road layouts because its come from a "layman". They just don't like being told by someone who hasn't got a degree in the subject.

I just wish instead of providing excuses, they could look seriously at suggestions by those that actually use the roads on their patch and even make a trip and see what might be a great idea. Only after that should they provide a reason why an idea should not be adopted.