Unlike the earlier paper licences which expired at age 70, all the photo licences were only ever valid for 10 years.

That's why many of us old fogeys are hanging on as long as we can before getting a new-fangled one with a picture!

So we'd all have to take another driving test if they change the test requirements?

There are many aspects of life for which "grandfather rights" are the only practical approach.

If you applied the same principle to vehicles, all older cars should be converted to Euro 5 or scrapped - not practical is it?

I'm only aware of the B+E heavy towing entitlement being carried over for pre-1997 drivers because it affected me - I'd have taken the +E test if required, indeed will take it if the Euro-licence arrangements outlaw grandfather rights.

I know that goods vehicle entitlements change regularly but since I don't even use my C1+E I've not kept myself informed.

One of the things that could be done is for car and motorbike drivers to provide an up-to-date optician's test report every 10 years - many people are too vain to have their eyes tested and don't appear to notice the gradual deterioration which we all get to a greater or lesser degree. It won't stop people driving without their prescribed glasses but that is routinely checked if the police are called to an accident.

Having read this thread yesterday I can't quite see the point DVD is making. My photo licence has, at 4a a date of effectiveness and at 4b a date of expiry - there isn't anything about the date of the photo. Perhaps as I am over 70 and have to renew every 3 years, with a new photo(?) photo expiry does not apply to me?

Plus, I think, a £20 renewal fee every 3 years and a new photo in circumstances which I haven't been able to establish! I must get onto the DVLA site!

as

Been trying to reply but for some unkown reason HJ site not accepting so trying AGAIN

I posted originally as a reminder to the large number of drivers who seem not aware of the 10 year rule. I think it is to assist the 'authorities' (also the coffers of DVLA) as the mug shot of a young debonair fly boy on RAF1250 now bears no resemblance to that seen in the bathroom mirror if you get my drift.

If it helps:

Section 99(2A) RTA 1988:

Licence comes into force:

any such period shall begin with the date on which the licence in question is expressed to come into force.

[and (ignoring the coffin dodging renewal)]:

a licence in the form of a photocard remains in force for a period of more than ten years, the holder of the licence must surrender it and its counterpart to the Secretary of State not later than the end of the period of ten years beginning with—

(a)the date shown on the licence as the date of its issue, or

(b)if the licence was granted by way of renewal or replacement of a licence bearing the same photograph, the date shown on the earliest licence bearing that photograph as the date of issue of that licence.]

rgds

dvd

Edited by Dwight Van Driver on 29/01/2012 at 07:49

Surely AS renewal at over 3 score years and 10 it is a freebie is it not.

You must be this as did you not train in a Wrights contraption?

dvd

AS

I believe you have to ask.......

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