I like the Vel Satis...but have no use for one right now.

The Vel Saris is a very smart looking vehicle. Shame it never caught on. It seems that anything French, above family saloon size is just a helter skelter of depreciation. However if you fancy one and are prepared to run it until it drops(you are unlikely to sell it again) then I suppose bargains are to be had, so go for it. A bit of what you fancy does you good, and one in the eye for the 'badge' snobs. Cheers Concrete

I think most of the well-known problems with Renaults were with (a) diesel engines and sundry electrics and (b) cars built between approx. 2000 and 2006. They've been better recently from what I read.

I had 7 company Renaults in a row between 1980 and 2001 (a 20TS, two 18GTX estates, a 21 Savanna, an Espace, a Safrane and a Laguna V6) - all petrol, and all very reliable despite doing 30,000 miles a year. When I went to a new job in 2002 with more salary bu no car I had to stop having Renaults becauase other people's problems led to the massive depreciation that we all know about.

The one that Bobbin's seen is from a reputable Renault dealer and sounds like a lot of car for the money, but could still go massively wrong as it gets older.

Edited by Avant on 28/07/2011 at 01:11