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MOT Legality - mk4golfman

My vehicle is due for testing soon, and i have been informed previously that if you take your vehicle for MOT and it fails (for whatever reason), your current certificate remains valid until it expires. The whole idea of this, is to give you time to get any repair work done before your certificate runs out. This makes sense. HOWEVER, i've just been told by a council MOT place that if the car fails, the current certificate becomes immediately invalid, and your only allowed to drive the vehicle straight back home etc. If this bit IS true, then what is the point of testing your car before MOT is due, people might as well just wait right up until the current one DOES expire, because testing before hand would just be pointless. Or am i missing something here?????? (VOSA's website is useless when trying to find out this information)

MOT Legality - RT

You've been fed b******* - yet council/co-op MOT testers are often recommended as impartial.

The only time an early retest fail causes problems if it's so bad to be "red ticketed" - since that means it's dangerous to use that's no bad thing.

MOT Legality - bathtub tom

>>what is the point of testing your car before MOT is due

If you have the retest done up to a month before the old one expires, the expiry date of the new MOT will be a year after the old expiry date.

MOT Legality - OG

If a car fails it's MoT it's unroadworthy and not only is it illegal to carry on using it the insurance becomes invalid. It doesn't matter if the old certificate has time to run.

www.mottest.net/mot/mot-failure-question/

MOT Legality - martint123

If a car fails it's MoT it's unroadworthy and not only is it illegal to carry on using it the insurance becomes invalid. It doesn't matter if the old certificate has time to run.

There are a number of things that can fail an MOT, but IMHO do not make a vehicle unroadworthy.

Hmmm - if a car does not have a locking fuel filler cap, which is an MOT fail, does that make it unroadworthy?

MOT Legality - Cris_on_the_gas

Not having a fuel filler cap - yes that's unroadworthy. What if fuel was to spill out and cause a following motorcyclist to loose control .

MOT Legality - jamie745

Well to be honest if the fuel filler cap was missing then that wouldve been the case on the way to the test centre before it was deemed unroadworthy so the motorcyclist couldve copped it before the test. Although to be honest if your fuel filler cap is missing then you know its missing and should replace it. You should never put your car in for an MOT thinking it might fail or knowing of a reason why it might.

Edited by jamie745 on 01/07/2011 at 19:31

MOT Legality - Cris_on_the_gas

You are quite right an MOT is valid until the expiry date. Remember the MoT is only a basic check of safety items and does not indicate that the car is roadworthy. however if in the opinion of the tester items which are not covered by the MoT are thought to need attention then an advisory note can be issued.

Regardless of MoT if you drive a vehicle on the road which does not meet all the relevant laws etc ( Construction & Use, Lighting regs etc) then you may be prosecuted. assuming that a vehicle fails an MoT it was probally defective driving to the test centre so you could still get done for an unsafe vehicle, same for returning from the test Centre, either home, to a place of repair or scrappage. Although you would not be committing the offence of no MoT if the old certificate was still valid.

In no situation are you allowed to drive an unroadworthy vehicle anywhere.

If in your council tester case as above if the vehicle was not defective before the test was carried out, but the MoT test was failed and you repaired the defect before leaving the premises. you could then drive it where ever you liked before the expiry of the original certificate. sorry rather a hypothetical case, but possible.

MOT Legality - Dwight Van Driver

.....and a failed MOT does not invalidate the 3rd party Insurance.......

dvd

MOT Legality - OG

Could still leave you looking very silly and seriously out of pocket though; and knowing insurance companies they'll leap on any little fault as an excuse to avoid paying out.

MOT Legality - RT

Insurance companies can't get out of paying third party claims - that's the whole point of compulsory TP insurance.

MOT Legality - jamie745

And because they cant get out of it is why in many if not most cases third party insurance is actually more expensive than fully comprehensive, to put you off buying third party, and push you into buying a policy with more wiggle room for them to get out of it should you ever need to claim.

Edited by jamie745 on 01/07/2011 at 21:34

MOT Legality - RT

Jamie - they simply don't have "wriggle room" on TP cover.

People in general seem to have difficulty understanding that liability to TP is the primary point of insurance - own damage cover is secondary, even though that''s the part that upsets everyone.

MOT Legality - Dwight Van Driver

Section 148 (2) (b) Road Traffic Act 1988 prohibits an Insurance Company from renaging on a third party claim due to the condition of the vehicle.

dvd