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Subaru Legacy 2.5 (2005) - Do these suffer Head Gasket Probs ? - Surrey_Scientist

I am going to a Subaru dealer at the weekend to look at a Legacy 2.5SE(auto) 2005 model... hey are asking £6495 (84,000 mles)

I have read in various places the 2.5l engine was prone to head gasket issues.

Does this model year suffer this problem, or have Subaru got it sorted out by now ???

are there any other issues to look out for ?

it is an automatic... I assume these are reliable transmissions ??

Subaru Legacy 2.5 (2005) - Do these suffer Head Gasket Probs ? - davros

I've run a 2005 Legacy estate since 2006 (70k miles). Best car I've ever owned by a country mile - and the poor old bus has lived a hard rural life.

I believe that the head gasket issue was solved by 2004 (it afflected the previous model).

At 84k, you'll need documentary evidence that the cam belt was changed (at c 60k) and the "big" 6 year service carried out (that's all the fluids, etc - normally £400ish). The 2.5 can use a bit of oil but I'm told that's nothng to worry about.

Also worth finding out whether the autobox oil has been changed - many places claim it's not necessary, but that's because it is a PITA to do without one of thsoe suction devices that autobox specialists use.

I've had no problems with the autobox personally and not heard of any, either - but it's not the best box, to be honest - I tend to use it more as a tiptronic.

I've heard of a few issues with wear in the front suspension - my car curently needs new drop-links to cure a front-end clonk (£50 from Japanesecarimports) - and wheel bearings are another known issue (I think they're c. £60 -odd each). And tracking can be way out - check the wear pattern on the front tyres.

The only thing that's ever gone wrong with mine is the trip computer, which stopped working while ago (the problem is a connector which I haven't got round to fixing as yet). Other than that, annual service, tyres and plenty of fuel (expect 24mpg in town on a bad day, max of 32/33mpg on a long run - but then, that's more than compensated by the lack of big maintenance bills)..

I'd imagine that a 2.5 auto would be hard to shift in the UK at the moment - drive a hard bargain, avoid main dealers & the official parts channels and enjoy.

Davros

Subaru Legacy 2.5 (2005) - Do these suffer Head Gasket Probs ? - Surrey_Scientist

thx for the info...

unf it is a main dealer it is for sale at :-(

There are loads of very cheap 2.0i (underpowered ?) and 3.0i (very thirsty ?) cars advertised on autotrader, but very few 2.5i - they seem to be more valuable.....

Also not alot of these cars in /around South London/Surrey they are all way away from me. this carI've seen is the only decent looking one nearby

Do you find that an independent garage can service the car OK and are not "frightenned" of it ?? - I would have thought changing plugs was also a PITA as its a flat-four... (how is this done ?)

where do you get parts from if not a main dealer.... I heard the dealers were often the only source of parts..

Subaru Legacy 2.5 (2005) - Do these suffer Head Gasket Probs ? - davros

I've found the car you’re looking at: it’s the mirror image of mine (minus the odd dent and paint chip!)

I guess there's a good reason why 3L models are plentiful but most people won't part with a 2.5. (20 mpg, anyone!). I guess it is over-priced, but Subaru dealers don’t budge much, in my experience. OTOH, they won’t have many takers, either, so a cheeky offer?

Re servicing: a Legacy is just an elongated Impreza - and there are plenty of very knowledgeable specialists who focus on the WRX-type Imprezas - but they share the same engine, etc etc – find any Subaru specialist and they’ll be able to help.

Subarus are very well engineered, pretty simple (the same basic drivetain has been in production for two decades or more) and easy to fix. Parts – ebay (careful of the model year) – Japanesecarimports.net – but you don’t need many! Things like air filters or pollen filters can be picked up for £10 or so. The one caveat is the exhaust, which I think is only available as an original part – and thus mighty pricey. I’ve never needed spark plugs.

Subaru Legacy 2.5 (2005) - Do these suffer Head Gasket Probs ? - Surrey_Scientist

thanks for the inside knowledge.

BTW whats "wrong" with the autobox -....

Subaru Legacy 2.5 (2005) - Do these suffer Head Gasket Probs ? - unthrottled

It's an auto.

Subaru Legacy 2.5 (2005) - Do these suffer Head Gasket Probs ? - Lygonos

4-speed and it makes the car a bit of a slug.

Subaru Legacy 2.5 (2005) - Do these suffer Head Gasket Probs ? - davros

Yup, it's very much an old-style 4-speeder.

The standard rations aren't best-chosen but it seems to work much better flipped over into "sport" mode or used as a (backwards) tiptronic - really quite nice once you get used to it. And with the auto, you don't get the low-ratio range that the manuals have.

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Subaru Legacy 2.5 (2005) - Do these suffer Head Gasket Probs ? - RT

For many models years there was no 2.5 Legacy, only 2.0 or 3.0, although the 2.5 was routinely fitted in the Outback version (Legacy estate with 50mm suspension lift and body kit).

As said, the previous head gasket problem was fixed for the 2003-9 Legacy/Outbacks.

The autobox is very reliable provided the fluid is changed on schedule (30/36k depending on model) and the correct fluid is used - it does however have a huge hole in the ratios between 2nd and 3rd.

From 3 years of owing a 2006 Outback 2.5 automatic and lots of discussions on Legacy forums it seems true that fuel consumption is 26-27mpg, regardless of which engine, number of turbos, transmission or driving style - weird that.

Subaru Legacy 2.5 (2005) - Do these suffer Head Gasket Probs ? - unthrottled

The auto's Torque converter effectively renders low range redundant. Torque converters don't need as many ratios as solid coupling transmissions. 7/8 speeds is superfluous.

Subaru Legacy 2.5 (2005) - Do these suffer Head Gasket Probs ? - WellKnownSid

My Mercedes has four speeds, but in normal driving only uses three of them, plus I get 30mpg overall out of the 25 year old straight six.

Six, seven or eight ratios seem to be more marketing than engineering inspired, ditto six speed manuals.

Subaru Legacy 2.5 (2005) - Do these suffer Head Gasket Probs ? - RT

The auto's Torque converter effectively renders low range redundant. Torque converters don't need as many ratios as solid coupling transmissions. 7/8 speeds is superfluous.

7/8 may be superfluous but the Subaru needs more than 4.