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Jamie's got new wheels!! - jamie745

Hi guys. You're probably not interested but im so happy i felt like telling people haha. You may have seen me championing the Peugeot 406 before, i had an HDi executive Auto before someone crashed into it last year. At the same time i bought that, my mother bought one, she has recently decided to go for something a bit smaller, so i sold my Focus which i was not inspired by, and have bought the 406 off her.

Its a gorgeous motor, 01 reg in silver. 2.0 Executive Automatic. Petrol. My parents are the type of people who maintain cars to the letter, anything it needs, it gets and this has only done 36,000 miles from new, about 10,000 since my parents bought it. Absolutely spotless and they knew how much i missed my one when it got wrecked. Theres one almost identical on Auto Trader right now for just under £2,000 but in my opinion this one is worth more, i'd have been happy to pay more also but mother wouldnt allow it LOL!

At the time i got the focus i was interested in trying to keep costs down etc but at the end of the day, when you're driving something so unremarkable, unless its free, i think you're happy to go for something slightly better. The 406 doesnt need an MOT or tax until March, and its not far off £300 for a tax disc on it, and its not the most fuel effeciant car in the world but its better on fuel than you'd probably think (and having sold the Focus for 3k, and not having to do mot or tax until next year, essentially its free motoring for a while!), and considering my weekly commute to work is a mere 46 miles combined, its hardly going to break the bank. I do take longer trips elsewhere and its ideally suited to that. Full leather, climate control, the most quiet and comfortable car ive ever come across, can make the most bumpy roads seem smooth as silk.

And ive just got my private plate transferred to it and should anybody crash into this one i will cut off their feet and beat them to death with their own blood stained stumps.

:)

Jamie's got new wheels!! - unthrottled

Glad you're thrilled with it. People are jettisoning cars like this for buttons nowadays. If you can stomach the fuel bills it should be a lovely cruiser.

Jamie's got new wheels!! - jamie745

Well the fact is i paid £1800 for that car, i said that was too little but my mother refused to let me pay her anymore for it, and it feels more "new" than the 07 plate Focus i had. And even on the Focus it was £200 a year to tax and returned low 30s mpg and it cost me £3,200, so how was i saving anything? Sold it on for £3,000. Spent £1800 on a car which i wont need to tax or MOT until March, and had a full service just two months ago. It was never driven much when they had it but they were getting around 29-33mpg with careful driving in that, but much better on the long run to the airport in it last year.

I found the buy-newer-and-smaller to save money idea a bit of a false economy. Right now im £1200 in the black and driving a better car. As i said in my op my commute to work is just over 11 miles a day (there and back) so no matter what i drive its not going to cost much to get there. In my free time i find myself on A roads a fair bit doing 30 odd mile trips a couple of times a week and thats where the 406 comes into its own. In my old one i did 14,550 miles in one year and it was effortless. Not sure i'd like to do that many in a Focus tbh.

I was weighing up the economy side of things, i looked at a Mondeo TDCi Automatic, yes its good on fuel but it cost three times more to buy than the 406, i'd have to own it for four years before it "paid for itself." The higher purchase price of so many diesels make the money saving argument a false economy in my view.

Edited by jamie745 on 16/04/2011 at 16:10

Jamie's got new wheels!! - Collos25

I hope you are pleased with your car but your valuation is through rose tinted glasses.

Jamie's got new wheels!! - jamie745

I think the valuations given to low equipped Volkswagens purely for having a VW badge are over valued but hey ho :) people still buy them haha

Jamie's got new wheels!! - unthrottled

Spoilsport!

But Andy, what price do you put on knowing the history of a 10 year old car...? And good familial relations for that matter!

Jamie's got new wheels!! - jamie745

Well the fact is, i know, for at least the last three years its been parked on a private driveway, no dents in the door, no supermarket dings. Cleaned every sunday. Serviced every year despite low mileage. I know how its been driven, where its been kept, where its gone, i know how it drives, how reliable it is.

I must admit if i walked into a second hand car dealership and saw it, i'd be worried that its a little too clean, bit too polished and that its hiding something, and i'd be skeptical of a mileage of under 37k on a 10 year old car. But i know itso nly had two owners, the first one did 28k in its first 7 years and everything was done at a main dealer. So unlike most 406's, it didnt go into a fleet and get thrashed as a company car.

Now just, to me, knowing that makes it worth more than it might be to most people.

Jamie's got new wheels!! - Collos25

It would fetch regardless of its condition in the low hundreds at auction,but he has bought it to run not to sell and I hope he enjoys it.

Jamie's got new wheels!! - bonzo dog

I hope you are pleased with your car but your valuation is through rose tinted glasses.

Rose tinted; possibly? But knowing a cars's history entirely is worth a heck of a lot when buying a car to keep.

Jamie's got new wheels!! - justadriver

Rose tinted; possibly? But knowing a cars's history entirely is worth a heck of a lot when buying a car to keep.

When I had a fiat punto last year, some friends in london saw the car and and said they would be interested if i was selling, told them i would let them have it for a price, they agreed and when i bought my new car they paid me for the punto. They got a car with full service history, no surprises, as cam belt, brakes and sump all done, fresh mot as well, i got more than the dealer offered and they paid a lot less than on a dealers forecourt. 2 happy people! Good luck with you peugot!

Jamie's got new wheels!! - Avant

Jamie - you make a very valid and useful point. Buying a used car is inevitably something of a gamble, but less so if you know the car's history, even less so if the car has been in your family and you've seen it in action.

Road testers normally rave about the Focus, and would rate it well ahead of the 406. This just shows that people's tastes vary. The comfy, softly-suspended cruiser is a breed underestimated by testers, but popular with many motorists: look at the surprisingly high placing of the Rover 75, last produced in 2005, in the latest Auto Express driver survey.

Good luck with the 406, Jamie.

Jamie's got new wheels!! - jamie745

Well thats the thing, i was tempted across to a Focus for the fact all road testers bang on about its "involving driving experience" and apparently being the best car out there for the money. But to be honest, i found it to be ok at most things, awful at nothing, but outstanding at nothing also. I found it very....bleh. It was just a car.

And who wants an "involving driving experience" when driving to Sainsbury's? Really? Most peoples daily drive is toodling about town or going in a straight line on a dual carraigeway, where does "involving driving experience" enter into that? If i want a perfect car for a twisty B Roads i'll buy a Jaguar, not a Focus.

Ive always liked Fords but the Focus disappointed me. The 406 may not do everything perfectly, but its very comfortable, all the toys and leather you could need and very quiet. So its outstanding in a few areas. The Focus was outstanding in none.

Im only 26 so it may surprise some people that i favour the 406. But oh well lol

Jamie's got new wheels!! - Sofa Spud

QUOTE:..."""involving driving experience""

An old Land Rover with worn steering joints and suspension bushes is an 'involving driving experience'.

Jamie's got new wheels!! - corax

And who wants an "involving driving experience" when driving to Sainsbury's? Really? Most peoples daily drive is toodling about town or going in a straight line on a dual carraigeway, where does "involving driving experience" enter into that? If i want a perfect car for a twisty B Roads i'll buy a Jaguar, not a Focus.

The 406 may not do everything perfectly, but its very comfortable, all the toys and leather you could need and very quiet. So its outstanding in a few areas. The Focus was outstanding in none.

I bought an Avensis a few weeks ago for this reason. There's too much traffic on the road where I live in the East to have an 'involving' driving experience most of the time. The Avensis has a great ride and handles and grips perfectly well, it's just not a car that encourages you to throw it around. It's very quiet and refined too. I had an old BMW 323i before this, but the longer I'm owning the Avensis, the more I like it - it's just so easy to live with. Great for drifting home after a tiring day at work. My dad has one, and nothing has gone wrong in the four years he's owned it (apart from the solenoid controlling the fuel filler flap), so this did influence my decision.

To buy a car where you know it's history is a wise move. Good luck with it.

Jamie's got new wheels!! - jamie745

I like the Avensis, but its another one which most car reviewers would put in the "buy if you want reliability" section and would encourage a new Mondeo or BMW 3 series for a "better drive." My first car was a Fiesta 1.1 which had a small woodland animal where the engine should be, 0-60 in about three weeks and all the fun and enjoyment of a day out with Piers Morgan. I suppose you could say trying to get that round a corner was "involving".

My dislike of the Focus cannot come from an anti-Ford bias as i had three Fords after i passed my test. The aforementioned Fiesta, then i worked my way up the Ford ladder with an Escort Ghia, oh yeah, Ghia, had a faux wood dash and everything! Then i did what every 20 year old does and crashed into a tree. Didnt bother claiming on insurance and just ditched the car and got a mk1 Mondeo for £700, the 1.6 saloon model, in four shades of blue and the back bumper had duck tape round it, but that was trouble free for three years. When i ruptured my ACL in my left leg, driving a manual could potentially be a problem, not all the time, but if something flares up and im 100 miles from home, it could prove tricky, so i switched to auto's then and ended up with my 406 HDi, i never thought i'd buy a Peugeot, having been brought up around Ford Granada's and Jaguar XJ6's but there ya go. Things happen.

And thanks for all the kind words by the way, last night i went to drop a computer off at a friends house (i was fixing it for him), 37 mile round trip and in the 406 it was like blinking and just being there. Its effortless. Who wants to put in effort while driving?

Jamie's got new wheels!! - Dutchie

Good luck with your car Jamie.

Fisrt job i did over fourty years ago working for a small engineering firm in Rotterdam the owner had a Peugeot when he took me for a meal.I can't remember which model but Peugeot where always a bit different a nice comfy car you got me thinking now,might go back to Peugeot in a few years.:)

Jamie's got new wheels!! - jamie745

Im delighted to report that after a couple of weeks all is well :)

Apparently the Air Con had never been turned on in all the time my parents had it, i used it at the weekend as im sure you're aware it was jolly warm, for a 70 mile motorway trip and it was like being in a fridge.

Very pleased with the car, the only thing which might tempt me to change it in the coming year would either be a Jaguar X Type at a good price or an unmolested Ford Scorpio for the novelty factor probably, but roll on Puggy!!! :)