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Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - dsuk81

Over the years i've seen various advice on washing cars, waxing etc.

What are people top tips to keep your motor looking shiny?

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - jonmac2910

Ask 10 different motorists and you will get 10 different answers. There are loads of products out there all claiming to be the best. If you dont want to use elbow grease just take it for a valet and pay someone else to do it for you.

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - madf

My methods are based on:

minimal work, minimal spend. Maximum results.

Aldi wash and wax Carnuba 4 litres about £5 lasts for about 5 years. two cover fulls per pail.

Spray all over with hose removing as much dirt as posible.

Wash car with wash and wax mix starting from top using 35p Morrisons sponge..

Wash off tar and mud with a car brush.. £4 from local store.

Dry with a 15 years old Halfords synthetic sponge. Ensure glass is perfectly dry.

Every two years polish with Autoiglyn wax and extra shine stuff.

Ensure wheel arches are washed by hose and insides of wheels cleaned.

Time required: summer about 25 mins

Winter - about 20 mins (it's cold so I rush...and why be picky when it gets dirty so quickly).

Result : shiny car..

I wash it at least once per month.. or when needed,, whichever comes soonest. I do not wash when it is less than 5C. Period.

Tar removal: white spirit

Edited by madf on 29/12/2010 at 16:44

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - Chrome

Writing as someone who used to wash hire cars for a Ford main dealer 20+ odd years ago, where the hire cars were without exception clean but with very dulled paintwork because we were told to wash the cars quickly using brooms with nylon heads! The flat burgundy on the Escorts suffered quite badly. With my own cars I always use a clean sponge for the bodywork and a second sponge for the wheels/tyres. Start at the roof working down by hosing down with cold water paying attention to the wheel arches and underneath along the exhaust system. Follow this with a decent car shampoo/warm water combination again working from the top down, open the doors/rear hatch and wipe the inner sills and inner door bottoms. Hose down with cold water and weather permitting chamois dry. In winter I never let roadsalt stay on the car for longer than a week or so . A lot of folk don't clean their cars regularly because 'it will only get dirty again ' but that is not the point really as cleaning does keep a car looking good and allows you to spot any faults/issues with the vehicle, so good for safety too.

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - Trilogy

I found this some time ago. I hope I'm allowed to post this link.

http://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/showthread.php?t=13592

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - Victorbox

In the link I like the bit about "jetwash the trim round the sunroof to remove mould" I bet that trim is in good nick!

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - Halmer

I hosed the arches of both our vehicles yesterday. Couldn't believe how much grit, crap and salt came down on to my drive. The front arches of my wife's Punto have plastic inserts but the rear ones are completely exposed.

Don't think this winter has been very kind to cars so far :(

Edited by Halmer on 30/12/2010 at 09:05

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - Dutchie

Iam also lucky to have a drive and a hosepipe ouside our house to wash the wheelarches of our car.Thats where most of the damage occurs due to salt and muck on the roads.I wash the car when its mucky and also take the mats out the car for cleaning .Two rubber mats in the front well which collect the dirt.I hoover the car first before i wash the car.When I wash the car hose down first a couple of caps of car shampoo in a buckett of warm water.I start at the roof of the car and finish with the wheels ,hose down and open the doors to let water drain.Dry with a chamois also inside the doors.I also check screen washer have a look at oil level and fluids in the car I have been putting in nearly neat screenwasher liquid due to the weather.This takes me about 3 quaters of a hr.I polish and wax twice a year spring and autum.Thats roughly has been my routine for years no washing or hoovering when its to cold .Old age creeping up.:)

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - Collos25

I cannot even see my car at the moment never mind wash it I assume its still there under the snow.

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - Dutchie

Drizzling here at the moment Andy cold weather suppose to be coming back next week..Never mind the snow it saves you a job i haven't cleaned my car yet,cleaned the daugthers Iam a soft touch when it comes to hers.

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - Dutchie

Just read the post about Hyunda Andy didn't know you had words with the fraternity.For the record I drive a Ford Focus 1.6 Titanium TDCI. New car be worth a few pence in a few years who cares its only money.:) Happy new year to all.

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - madf

I've read the Hyundai thread.

Any consumer who orders a car in June and has not cancelled their order by Decmber and is still waiting obviously had a very impressive test drive.

What? They did not have a yest drive.? Not even a test drive? And paid a deposit? On a £20k plus car?

Hmm... taxes in the UK are too low for some people...more money than sense is my opinion.

Any consumer waiting six months for a CAR which depreciates 20% after a year has more money than sense...

Well that's my opinion...as a mena ex xcot.. sorry a mean ex Scot..

Edited by madf on 30/12/2010 at 16:30

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - Dutchie

You have said it madf you must be a brave ex SAS soldier.I am just going for a drive in my trusted spare old Hillman Imp and reliable Rootes engine 50mpg got to watch the pennies.

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - madf

I am not brave.. Just mean...

Having seen how many 1000 milers or less there are on Autotrader, I have changed my mind. Most of those waiting for IX35s are or appear to be naive..and rather unwordly...

Edited by madf on 30/12/2010 at 17:07

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - Lygonos

Back in July I washed my car with Zymol shampoo (struggled to get one without added wax/gloss agent) - 15mins

Clayed the paintwork with Bilt Hamber soft clay (water used as lubricant) - 2hrs

I washed again with shampoo and dried with microfibre towel (Big box for a tenner from Costco) - 15mins

Autoglym Super Resin Polish (the red one) - trick is to apply with a slightly damp applicator pad - covers the car in a few minutes - try it dry and it's a PITA.

Once dried, buffed it off, then applied Autoglym Extra Gloss Protection (very sparingly, no rubbing required) - 15mins

Left overnight to dry in.

Buffed off with microfibre - 15mins.

Since then I've used the Zymol maybe twice as simple shampoo and the EGP still beads up and shines like it did in July.

In total maybe 3-3.5hrs to do the whole car but it left the paint mirror-smooth and claying first does seem to make the EGP last months longer.

Edited by Lygonos on 30/12/2010 at 20:33

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - ForumNeedsModerating

A shiny car is nice, in a way. But going for the shine too often - especially in winter - can lead to micro scratching unless you're very, very thorough with the de-gritting/de-mudding initially. Check around the front wheel lower bodyowrk - lots of inbedded grit quite often.

So, I have a winter regime & a summer regime. Winter is all about keeping salt/grit/muck away/off the car & protecting paint & metal - especially underneath & wheelarches.

Winter: Soak car with hose, remove grit/salt from underneath with hose - around suspension components,/axle, brakes hoses etc - and don't forget in & around the whole exhaust system. That gets the crap off. As my car's had a thick oilng underneath (not undersealing), I rarely use any de-greasant (car wash) there. The soaked car then hosed again to remove rough dirt, then very soft wash brush shampoo starting from top - I don't like sponges because they can hold grit & cause micro scratches.

I use a good quality wash & wax for this & take especial care on lower half of car where grit/tar sticks. I never polish or chamois in winter - just leave a layer of polish from the above wash/wax. Windows may get a glass cleaner applied & chamois all round. Remove carpets & hoover. Done.

Summer: All the above, except especial attention to front (insects/tar removal etc), then polish when car is grit/tar free, but I never chamois a car.

Generally: all washing done with copious warm/hot water, brush/cloth never re-applied without thorough rinsing. Wheels soaked, then hosed off & washed - all recesses cleaned.

My 'golden rules' : never rub/polish until car is completely clean/grit free. Winter is about stopping salt/grit/corrosion damage, not about 'showroom' shine. The underneath is just (if not more) important - that's where the 'oily bits' have work to do. Always asap, rinse/hose after snow/ice/salt etc, even if you don't wash that time.

Products: Buy the best cleaning solutions/polishes you can, use soft scrubbing/cleaning materials designed for car cleaning - i.e. no old rags etc. I don't believe in fancy or pricey 'miracle' clean-your-car-in-5-mniutes products - waste of money & encourage you to skimp the proper process.

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - Sofa Spud

1) Wait until car is dirty, so you notice a big difference when it's clean.

2) Wash from roof down to sills with sponge and plenty of water.

3) When car is nearly dry, wipe over with damp wash-leather.

4) If car still looks dull, consider polishing!

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - Cymrogwyllt

I keep it simple

Rain washes it.

Dealer buying it does the inside apart from the windscreen. Was once moaned at that it took a whole day to do one of my former cars. Tough. I've been buying cars from him for 30+ years so he knows exactly what he's getting.

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - Talking Hoarse

I have discovered Demon Shine and been experimenting recently. I apply diluted D-S with a small pressurised garden sprayer after I have washed & rinsed the car. THen squeegee (or microfibre cloth) dry. Stay off windscreen though.

Can I ask advice? I have a newly acquired 27 year old car to clean up - inside velour trim is a bit grubby. What is best upholstery cleaner? (I do have a carpet shampoo type machine that is good but dont want to wet the old trim more than I can help). Advice appreciated.

Ed

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - bbc123

I've used Turtle Wax Interior 1 foam on the velour trim in my Saab and it worked very well. I just followed the instructions on the can and was amazed at what came off. The seats didn't appear very grubby prior to cleaning; no stains to shift, I just thought a shampoo would do them good! I've used it on cloth seats to remove chocolate and grease and it removed the stains with no problems.

As far as cleaning the outside goes, I have a very similar approach to Sofa Spud, but I prefer a noodle wash mitt instead of a sponge, as I find it easier to get the noodles into the nooks and crannies, such as the radiator grille. The new Simoniz car shampoo (apple scented for some reason) which you can pick up at Costco works very well. I polish and seal twice a year (autumn and spring) using something like Autoglym Super Resin and Turtle Wax Platinum Extra Gloss.

Having used loads of different products over the years I reckon that preparation and technique have the greatest effect on keeping a car looking good rather than the brand of product used. Some are better than others, but I'm happy with the stuff produced by Autoglym, Turtle Wax, Car Plan, etc. I don't think I'd ever go down the road of exotic products, spending £100 on a tin of wax!

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - s.v.u.

Hmm, it is very obvious from all the advice given so far regarding cleaning a car that all contributors thus far have been, and no offence intended here, amateurs. Having been a chauffeur in several HMG ministries I can state that the correct way to wash any vehicle is to start from the bottom of the vehicle working upwards toward and finishing with the roof of the vehicle. As at that time most ministry cars were black when finished the cleanness of the car was then able to be measured. This was done by placing a six inch ruler up to and touching the surface of the car. If the vehicle was considered clean you should be then able to see every point of the ruler in the reflection of the body work.. If you could not see all the markings in the reflection you were told to "do it again laddie !"

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - Lygonos

In the correct sense of the word "amateurs" none of the afore-posting members need to clean their cars as part of their professional duties - if a car is to be perfectly clean at all times then it is likely to be washed at least twice a week.

"Amateurs" generally wash their cars far less regularity and thus benefit from the use of wax/sealant products to maintain a decent appearance between longer wash intervals.

If you want to see how to really clean a car, Mr Ex-Chauffeur - have a gander at this chappie/madman ;-) ...

www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=81391

ps it takes a while to load as there's about 1 bazillion pics

Edited by Lygonos on 02/01/2011 at 00:37

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - s.v.u.

Dearie me ! Yes I have seen gentleman before and numerous other cleaning fanatics, usually they have been our American cousins and some of those chaps even make our Vauxhall friend look like an "amateur" if you know what I mean ! Obviously our Vauxhall friend is not married or if he is she must be a saint to put up, endure, however you like to put it, the ammount of time this chap spends on his car . I think that before I posted photographs of the whole procedure on the web I would have taken the precaution of blanking/removing the reg plates as the number of offences being committed to photographs and displayed for any jobs worth from the local council is myriad ! Still in its way I suppose it is an entertaining article but lets face it people like this guy are, to be polite, "different" from what is considered normal. Vive la difference I suppose !!

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - s.v.u.

Hmm, Its obvious that you would never be able to secure a position as a proffessional chauffeur my friend because "common sense" dictates that by starting at the bottom of a vehicle as you work your way upwards the parts that you have already cleaned will constantly be kept as wet as possible by the water running down from the area of bodywork you have just washed also is being permanently rinsed from your running hose..At least this was the procedure taught to us when we attended the chauffeur traing course by Rolls Royce many years ago, but then what would they know about cleaning a vehicle. Upon my discharge from the "mob" and applying for a position with the civil service as a chauffeur after reading my C.V. checking my service record and references three of us were taken into a court yard where there were three Daimler ds420`s parked. We were then asked to wash these three, already immaculate vehicles. out of the three applicants I was one of the two that were offered a position, the unlucky applicant was the only one that started from the roof of the vehicle. But as I say, probably RR and the civil service had got it all wrong !

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - John F

probably RR and the civil service had got it all wrong !

Yes, they probably had; if the commercial success of pre-BMW RR cars is anything to go by.

Such perverse thinking re car-washing is of little importance. However, I wonder if it was prevalent in their automotive research and development department?

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - Lygonos

The reason for washing from bottom to top is not because it is any better, it is because you can see what has not been washed.

If you wash from the top, you may miss areas that look clean under screeds of water but when you dry the car show up patches of uncleaned panels.

From the bottom up anything that is wet has had a sponge/mitt over it.

Unless a car is filthy, the layer of wax/sealant over the paint can handle the small amount of abrasion from slightly dirtier water being leathered off after washing.

Leaving an A4 sized patch of dirty panel is an instant fail for a chauffeur.

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - s.v.u.

Such perverse thinking re car-washing is of little importance. However, I wonder if it was prevalent in their automotive research and development department?

Steady on chaps, we are starting to make this topic into something bigger than it is ! All I am saying is that in those far off dark days if "they" said thats the correct way to do the job, thats the way we expect the job to be done and you wanted to obtain the job, well, need I say more ? ! If at that time perceived wisdom had dictated that you wash from front to back or vise versa then thats the way it would have been done, I was the one applying for the position . In conclusion all I can say is that over the decades since, I can only say that this method has served me well and can only wish that I had a pound for every time a neighbouring sunday car washer has said to me,"how come I always seem to miss a bit !"

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - Roly93

BMW Nano-Wax every few months.

Cheap on EBAY, easy to use, non-chalky near effortless buffing. Used it on all of our cars from new and they all still have factory-fresh paintwork. Not good on old and abused paintwork though.

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - Dutchie

This is new to me cleaning a car from the base upwards.So when you have a shower you wash your feet first? Strange.:)

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - Lygonos

I wash one panel at a time, then rinse the mitt befoe doing the next panel, starting from the roof and working from top to bottom.

Valeters and chauffs do it from bottom to top because any missed patch is a catastrophe, whereas for the average punter it's worth no more than a wry smile.

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - Avant

As a professional S.V.U. is of course right, for the reasons given by himself and Lygonos. My father taught me that many years ago: he was a naval officer rathe than a chauffeir but know that sort of 'trick of the trade'.

One of the reasons I prefer light coloured cars is that the darker the paint colour, the more likely you are to miss a bit when washing it.

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - Dutchie

Working on harbour tugs for Piet Smit in Rotterdam as a lad over fourty years ago.The tugs where kept spotless by us deckies.You had to start on the wheelhouse roof first soft brush and worked you way down to the deck Deck was cleaned with liquid soap It was our pride to keep the tug clean .If I had had started at the base of the tug first the old man would have had a word with me.Just a different way of working.

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - bbc123

It's interesting how much debate there is over car cleaning techniques. I tend to spray the car from the bottom to the top (to shift mud and easy to remove dirt), which keeps the bottom of the car constantly wet to soften the harder to remove dirt. Then I wash from top to bottom with a mitt and shampoo. This also allows shampoo to run down over the bottom of the car prior to sponging, giving it a pre-soak.

This technique may not find favour with some of the professionals (and I am indeed an amateur as s.v.u. put it), but I haven't put a scratch on a car yet through washing. The technique I use is that outlined by Autoglym in their book "Car Care: An Expert Guide", which is also the same as car cleaning advice I once read from Turtle Wax. As long as one is systematic in cleaning the car, I've found it quite hard to miss parts of the bodywork.

I suspect that it probably doesn't matter too much which way round you clean the car provided you have plenty of water and shampoo to lubricate the contact area between the sponge/brush/mitt and the paintwork.

I think I may have wasted a significant part of my life...!

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - MVP

Wait until it has rained or heavy morning dew so dirt is nice and soft and won't scratch.

Wash with Lidl carnuba wax and furry mitt.

Rinse off with water from rainwater butt - no polishing required.

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - MVP

Wait until it has rained or heavy morning dew so dirt is nice and soft and won't scratch.

Wash with Lidl carnuba wax and furry mitt.

Rinse off with water from rainwater butt - no polishing required.

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - edlithgow

Hand soap and water, top-down, concentrating on the windows and lights, for which transparency is an asset.

I don't clean the wheels or tyres, reasoning that mud and dust might protect the latter from sunlight a bit.

I use a Taiwan Army nurses uniform blouse that I found in an abandoned military hospital as a wash-cloth, though I doubt it has any special magical properties without a nurse inside it.

Then a hose if I can get one , top-down, concentrating on the wheel arches. Newspaper for the windows if I'm being anal.

If the rust is bleeding through the primer very noticably (its about due) I go over it with aluminium foil (actually crumpled aluminium kitchen exhaust hose material) and sunflower oil.

I daresay that might fill in some micro scratches too (or macro scratches, for that matter)

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - up north

I just wear an aluminium foil hat and wait for David Ike to turn up in his marigolds.

Best Car Cleaning Approach and Products - edlithgow

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Edited by edlithgow on 25/02/2021 at 00:37