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Vauxhall Vectra B - misfiring v6 vectra - TURK86

i've got a '97 2.5 v6 vectra with a constant misfire.i noticed it wasn't producing a spark on piston 3.so i replaced all HT leads,spark plugs and the coil pack in a bid to fix the problem.but it still remains the same with no spark on piston 3!.i have noticed the misfire seems to get worse when the car gets to normal running temperture.any advise or suggestions would be apprecitated.

Many thanks.

Vauxhall Vectra B - misfiring v6 vectra - Collos25

You need to see if the coil is getting a signal and then work forward or backwards depentant on the result.

Vauxhall Vectra B - misfiring v6 vectra - Enginostics

Good Morning, just read your thread on the problem you are having. The very first thing you need to do is to replace the ECT sensor, wiring and connector. We are fuel injection specialist and have come across this a million times. We use various software that gives us data on vehicles, one of which called Autodata. It states the following:

All models built 05/1997 with Bosch ECT Sensor, Opel/Vauxhall Part No: 90541937 are affected with problems such as misfiring, erratic idling, engine stalls and poor starting.

This is due to the poor connection to the Engine Coolant Sensor (ECT), poor routing of the harness and the harsh vibrations. I would begin with changing this, it is a design/installation fault by vauxhall and we have found it to solve more then 50% of issues like yours. Every vauxhall we get with this kind of problem, even before doing any diagnostics, we rectify this ECT wiring.

There is other factors that can cause this but do the above first and see how you get on.

Let me know how you get on or if you need more data.

Vauxhall Vectra B - misfiring v6 vectra - injection doc

I would 2nd that.

Also one of my old tech notes from some years ago below

Vectra & omega V6 engine running issues

The system is Bosch 2.8.3 sharing similarities with other GM V6 variants. The vehicle supports excellent serial communication capabilities and Autodiagnos offer software for this purpose. When choosing serial diagnostic equipment I appreciate cost will always be a factor but I suggest you consider complete vehicle access systems.

From our experience the growth in SRS & ABS repairs present a profit centre not to be turned away.

The V6 EM power plant is not a cheap one to maintain. Spark plugs & HT lead replacement is a common occurrence @ approx. £200.00 excluding labour, which may add £75.00 with basic diagnostic checks.

The main problem with HT is corona ringing, which is often quite severe @ low mileage, (15-3,000 mls) oil leakage and spillage do not help.

The EGR valve is easily accessible and we strongly recommend modifying by manufacturing a blank gasket to prevent passage of gasses. This method avoids Mil lamp errors from the lift solenoid and potentiometer if left disconnected.

A noticeable improvement in light and mid range derivability can be expected.

Software modification is another option for increased midrange performance; this can be installed via the serial port.

As with many other vehicles the most common problem is hesitation especially at transient and light throttle.

Check DTCs, but don’t omit the preparation to HT first, it’s a labour intensive exercise to replace components so fit the OE products first time explaining the benefits to the customer.

Check both Lambda sensors for active switching & frequency. Zerconia sensors should have crossing amplitude of 800 MV with a frequency over 1 Hertz.

Next take a look at the air mass meter, which is a thick film type as opposed to an exposed wire filament.

For a complete evaluation you are going to have to plot the output using a oscilloscope (waveform (1) during a snap throttle test. Pay special attention to the rate of amplitude of the primary peak and secondary peaks. The output is very critical 4.5 volts should be expected, a drop of 200 MV will present significant under fuelling on acceleration, however if the air intake or exhaust are restricted this will directly effect the flow rate of the air intake. Just as incorrect valve timing will. Remember this engine has two cams per bank with 24 valves, they all need to be singing from the same hymsheet.

It is worthwhile on high mileage vehicles, removing the injectors & testing on a flow bench before servicing. A decrease in injector performance is gradual and often not detected by the customer, together with the attention to HT and Lambda sensors; attention here can transform a lacklustre V6 into a powerful tractable engine.

One of the more intriguing problems with GMs V6 was on an Omega, however the problem was a misfire @ or around 3600 RPM.

The effects (symptoms) were erratic dwell and injector pulse control. Applying the oscilloscope to a break out box (waveform (2) and monitoring the crank angle sensor (CAS) identified a defect in the wave form pattern.

This defect was static within the signal pattern just after the TDC point.

Vauxhall Vectra B - misfiring v6 vectra - elekie&a/c doctor

Is it possible that there is a miss on cylinder #6 as well?The Bosch motronic efi system on these uses a wasted spark system that fires the plugs in 3 pairs sequentially.1 and 4,2 and5,3 and 6.Not sure how a faulty coolant temp sensor would knock out the spark on one cylinder.I think more investigation is reqd.hth

Vauxhall Vectra B - misfiring v6 vectra - xxgazxx

sorry for bringing up an old thread but i am having the same probs as the OP. I hope this fixed your problem mate. can someone please give me instruction on how to do this.

Any replys are appreciated.