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Ford Excursion - Any advice re: buying an American SUV - TB2

If anybody owns an American Car/SUV/Truck I would be grateful for any advice re: potential pitfalls. Obviously there will be a smaller 'market' for the vehicle when I come to sell it and for this reason we will probably keep the vehicle for as long as we can.

Parts availability is one concern as well as mechanical knowledge of any of the break-down services here, should we ever need to call on them. Also, if we were to break down in Europe, would a Ford garage be able to get the information they need to repair our vehicle or are we likely to be stuck abroad with 'computer says no' attitude from service staff?

We need a new (to us) tow vehicle as our 21yr-old V8 Defender is starting to show her age. We pull a twin-axle caravan MTPLM 1750Kgs around the UK but would like to travel further afield, Scandinavia and Spain being two areas of interest. Due to the Landies age we cannot arrange break-down cover overseas so have thus far been limited to holidays in the UK. Nothing wrong with that, but it would occasionally be nice to have some sunshine once in a while!

One income, two children and a wife who will not fly mean that caravanning is our only realistic chance of holidaying; so no comments please about 'selling the tin tent!'

The only European vehicles that will haul our caravan and that I can fit into (due to headroom) are the Land Rover Defender, Discovery 3 and Kia Sedona. The Defender has been ruled out because we have had one for nearly 10 years now and the family are demanding creature comforts like a radio and a heater that works! The Discovery 3 is only just coming into our price range but most vehicles have mileages well in excess of 100,000 miles. The Kia Sedona appears to be a competent tug, but I'm a little concerned about reliability and solidity. Having sat in one at a dealers, it seemed a little plasticky and precious.

The Excursion offers excellent load space, is well-equipped and more importantly sufficient headroom. (unlike the Escalade, Expedition, Yukon and Hummers that I tried)

MPG is not too much of an issue as I average 13.4mpg at present. Rough calculations indicate that I could expect around 18mpg solo but due to its presence and towing capability I don't think that our caravan will take too many mpg's off of that figure.

Any advice would be useful. Constructive comments please....... 'Don't buy it' is an opinion but please support your views with reasoning.

Regards

Ford Excursion - Any advice re: buying an American SUV - Pica

I imported a Ford Mustang into the UK back in 2006 and I have carried out a number of mods in the meantime. Parts availability is quite good in the UK as there are a number of specialist companies that will look after the cars without issue as the mechanics are very simple and straightforward compared with the Euro/Jap cars. I have ordered parts from one USA supplier on a Monday and they have arrived at my door on Wednesday. (Import duty and VAT can be a surprise on the higher value items).

My Stang has been pretty faultless apart from a shock absorber but they needed upgrading for me anyway. It has sailed through two MOT's now without issue.

One piece of advice you need it to make sure the company/person who carries out the SVA/IVA conversions know what they are doing as there is a danger of blowing the SJB (Smart Junction Box). The replacement cost is around £1000 + fitting.

Servicing costs are around £40 - £45 per hour by a good independent specialist. Manufacturers warranties are not applicable but you can purchase an after market one.

Ford dealers in the UK/Europe are to be avoided as they dont have a clue when it comes to a Yank Tank.

If you PM me I can let you know some of the reputable companies that will help you.

Ford Excursion - Any advice re: buying an American SUV - Collos25

Instead of importing one from the states if thats your intention have a look in Holland or Germany there are lots for sale,I ran a Chevy for ages spare parts are no problem there is a magazine in Germany that has hundreds of Ami suvs for sale its called "Auto" and it also lists the spare part companies.I see in the UKyou can buy Explorers very cheap as long as its the later model after the cam chain fiasco (2000on) they are superb vehicles for towing.

Ford Excursion - Any advice re: buying an American SUV - Pica

There is a 2005 Excursion with 18000 miles for sale here tinyurl.com/35w9n8j

Ford Excursion - Any advice re: buying an American SUV - howmuchlonga!
Thats because they are crap!
Ford Excursion - Any advice re: buying an American SUV - TB2

Thanks for your advice so far. The vehicle I believe was imported from new and has been in the UK for about 5 years. Interesting comment about the Special Junction Box. I certainly wouldn't want to blow that apart! The vehicle currently has the American specification trailer electrical connections so that would have to be replaced with the conventional12N and 12S sockets, or perhaps a 13pin and i'll have to make do with a 13pin - twin socker adaptor for the time being. The fact that parts appear to be readily available is reassuring; especially with the shipping turn around times that you quoted.

That low mileage version looks pretty nice. I'm slowly but surely getting tempted!

Ford Excursion - Any advice re: buying an American SUV - Ethan Edwards

13,8mpg? FFS at £1.20 a litre! Man you need to go LPG.

Ford Excursion - Any advice re: buying an American SUV - Andy P

What's the visibility like from a left-hand drive vehicle towing a caravn? I guess pulling out of oblique junctions could be interesting....

Ford Excursion - Any advice re: buying an American SUV - TB2

As far as the mpg is concerned, I agree that an LPG conversion appears attractive but with an annual mileage of around 3000 miles, it would take a long time to recoup the £2000+ for a decent job.

I have thought about the vision when towing. Generally, at the moment at least, overtaking on A roads and M ways have never really been an issue, as 55mph was just about right when towing with the 110. As such, I would happily nestle into the nearside lane between HGV's and wait for them to turn off. Having a tug that will happily pull and more importantly, accelerate uphill whilst towing will be a novel experience! I'll rely on the driving skills gained from the IAM including raising my vision and anticipation amongst others.

As for the oblique junctions..................... :-0

Ford Excursion - Any advice re: buying an American SUV - SteveLee
I can't understand the OPs worry about KIA reliability having own Land Rovers (officially the most unreliable car you can buy in the UK) and then decides to switch to American SUVs which are not much better in terms of dependability.

American SUVs tend to be mechanically robust but have iffy electrics and can suffer from rust. I suspect parts supply would not be an issue for any of the big yanks.

If you're after serious no-nonsense metal on a budget - don't overlook the SsangYong Rexton, it's a basic but mechanically fairly modern large SUV, I would expect reliability to better Land Rover, JEEP, Ford Explorer etc. (but Mr Toyota won't be losing any sleep.) Engine/service parts are readily available being a tried and trusted Mercedes 2.7 TD stemming from the era before bean-counters wrecked the company. The Rexton is remarkably good value.
Ford Excursion - Any advice re: buying an American SUV - captain chaos

If you want a yank for towing buy one that's already had an lpg conversion. Have you considered a dayvan? They usually have bigger mirrors than an SUV so with mirror extensions plus the width of the things in the first place towing and overtaking, even with left hand drive, shouldn't be too much of a problem. I would recommend an additional transmission cooler too.

Parts availability (and price) are a delight. You can get any part for any yank that's ever been made, none of this once it's ten years old you're on your own malarky. For example, there are two companies that I know of that make weatherstripping for fifties chevys.

Insurance is really cheap too. There a plenty of companies dealing in american car insurance, and if you do a low annual mileage that keeps the price down. For example, to insure a '91 Camaro fully comp, limited to 5k a year I pay £210.

Ford Excursion - Any advice re: buying an American SUV - BigJohnD

I had a 3rd generation 4 door 4.0 V8 Ford Explorer for a short time, and struggled to get 17mpg out of it.

In the end I went back to the dealer saying I worried that the fuel consumption was so high. Could they check it? How could I drive it better?

I was told not to worry, most people couldn't even get 15 mpg!

Needless to say it went pretty soon as I'm not a Texan with my own oil well.