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If you are a molecular scientist or similar and can prove these ridiculous claims, then fine, but somehow i doubt it, so why continue bad mouthing a great product?"

Welll YOU are the one making claims.. So lets see an independent molicular scientist prove YOUR claims..

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ZX1 uses the oil or any other liquid to get to the metallic parts that are being targeted, and in no way changes the structure or makup or properties of the oil or liquid itself. Therefore it is NOT an additive in the usual sense of the term, it is merely using the liquids as a transport vessel and nothing else.

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Typical person who is challenged and has no sensible answer so attacks his challengers .. Typical marketing rubbish.

Male cow excrement..

Edited by madf on 29/11/2010 at 17:47

"These were the comments of the Silkolene Chemist when I raised the issue of additives again recently, he gave me a list of 6 he'd tested and these comments where all over each one.

Use them if you wish but I'm dead against them personally!

These products consist of a chlorinated paraffin diluted with mineral oil plus a sulphurised fat additive. When added to engine or transmission oils, chlorinated additives cause corrosion and accelerate lubricant degradation. They do not reduce wear, and have no effect on fuel consumption. Provided that a lubricant suited to the application is used, their friction-reducing properties are negligable.

General Remarks on Chlorinated Additives.

A number of ‘add-on’ additives intended to improve the performance of commercially available automotive lubricants have been marketed in recent years, under such names as ‘Xxtralube ZX-1’, ‘Metol FX-1’, ‘PPL Anti-Friction’ and ‘Activ-8’.All such products share the following characteristics with ‘X-1R Friction Eliminator’:-

1) They all contain chlorinated paraffin ‘exteme pressure’(EP) compounds first used in the 1930s in heavily-loaded industrial gearboxes, and in some automotive transmission applications, mainly hypoid gears.

2) They all corrode copper-based alloys at moderate temperatures, easily exceeded in all engine, and most transmission applications.This problem was recognised in the 1930s, and chlorinated compounds were never used in transmissions with bronze bearings or gears. No responsible manufacturer ever suggested using them in engines where their increasing activity at high temperatures could lead to piston ring corrosion and bore glazing. (For the same reason, modern ‘hypoid’ additives are not used in engines, even though they are much safer than any chlorinated additive.)

3) X-1R Friction Eliminator and its clones are based upon very outdated technology, which was abandoned by responsible lubricant manufacturers for automotive transmission uses in the 1950s. Chlorinated compounds still find applications in metal working, but their use is on the decline because of health and safety considerations.

4) When burnt, chlorinated paraffins produce corrosive hydrochloric acid, and organo-chlorine compounds including the highly poisonous phosgene gas. Apart from these corrosion and health hazards, with petrol engines the deactivation of exhaust catalysts is also a problem.

5) Unfortunately, these additives give spectacular results in simple EP test machines such as the ‘Falex’. As a marketing ploy, a demonstration of this type looks impressive to those not aquainted with the above facts. Also attractive is the low cost of chlorinated compounds, allowing profits of several thousand percent to be made.

Hope this helps you to make your own mind up on these magic additives."

Oilman Opie oils

http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/31913-extralube-zx1.html

OK nikster, lets look at your first point

"Firstly, yes i am an internet marketer, but i can see no reference in my post to selling the product from this forum whatsoever ! And pray, what are "All The Forums" i am trying to do this on then?"

nikster, just how stupid are you? The following is taken from your website-

"I am trying to put to rest some of the "Engine or Oil Additive" comments and claims and would urge any and all of the members of this forum to do the same. I will do what i can when i can by joining any relevant forum and making my own contribution to the betterment of the product and its image."

Another point you try to make

"If you are a molecular scientist or similar and can prove these ridiculous claims, then fine, but somehow i doubt it, so why continue bad mouthing a great product?"

Firstly, I was not badmouthing anything, just pointing out your vested interest.

Secondly, there is only one person here making ridiculous claims.

Perhaps we should all join your forum and spam the *** out of that!

Hey everybody, I joined specifically joined this forum to comment on this product. I would like to formally begin by saying that I began my conscious relationship to this product in full faith of its effectiveness. I had no doubt that it could live up to its claims, perhaps with a slight pessimism, as I understand buisnesses tend to blow a lot of smoke with a thoughtless, exuberant arrogance. I see it everyday in my company, and I dont expect anything different from other businesses, because money is always the end game with them. However, despite my full faith in ZX1, I decided to read reviews. Clearly, there are three types of people in these threads:

1.) Well educated and skilled people trying to give any sense of reality on the topic at hand

2.) Less educated and skilled people offering blind skepticism

3.) Offended buisnessmen attempting to desperately defend the product they are involved with.

I have no problems with any of you, however, the exasperated comments such as the one I am responding to, shows that skepticism is certainly justified. I still have a sense of faith in ZX1, despite the healthy doubt that has been developed by my conscious relationship with it, as a result of simple research.

I read the copper corrosion testing report, and it showed all of 2 MEASLY PAGES OF INFO. I furthered my skepicism, and decided to conduct my own copper corrosion test, which took me a couple of hours at room temperature, with low humidity, a 4" strip of quality 16 gauge copper, and a small cup with three fingers of pure ZX1. I kept the strip of copper submerged for all of two hours and finished off by heating the liquid to 185°F (85°C) in a double boiler for a short while. Considering the claims that ZX1 bonds to all metals ferrous and non ferrous at 60C, i decided theres a film on the strip so my test was over. I observed the strip closely, found very mild black, light ring, spotted corrosion on the half which was submerged. Not severe, however was only a couple of hours at mild temps. Just because it corrodes copper, I say to myself, I wont use it around copper, its alloys, or other mild metals. I tell myself that my test does not mean it corrodes alloy steels, which I believe are most common in MOST engines. ALSO, my test was done with pure ZX1. That doesnt say anything about a few mills in a crankcase. Without rambling on for eternity, I will say that I wouldnt expressly advise this stuff to be used as a part of your motor oil unless its for controlled variable testing purpose. To all the buisnessmen here, I ask you to please get off the high horse of profit to learn humility, and to all others here, I say protect yourself and I hope you have a blessed day.

If you add ZX1 Micro Oil Metal Treatment to oil - it's an oil additive

Edited by RT on 03/02/2018 at 21:37

This product was recomended by a National Gearbox specialist back in the early 90's as being exactly what was required for Ford Type 9 5 speed gearboxes (Sierra etc) that were well known for having a poor shift quality (especially compared to the earlier 4 speed boxes). They sold loads.

Problem was these boxes had brass syncros in and this product did it a load of no good. Only cure, a rebuild and new syncros.

They probably got a percentage of the rebuild work as well.

Any members remember the product SLICK I believe it was a graphite based additive, I used to put it in the engine of my old A40 farina and it really made a difference to the feel and performance of the 998cc engine. I don.t know if you can still buy it but probably obsolete now with modern oils.

AFAIK, it was shown that Schlick accelerates engine wear - engines are designed with machined internal surfaces, each providing microscopic opportunity for oil to cling to the surface and provide lubrication to reduce wear - the nature of schlick was to fill those microscopic opportunities and present a smooth surface, good for reducing friction but not for oil retention so not good for subsequent engine wear.