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PEUGEOT 406 Hdi - OIL CHANGE BLUNDER Peugeot 406 Hdi - Tonyredz

Hello, would be grateful for any advice. Have just changed the oil in a 2003 Peugeot 406 Hdi. I have used just over 4 litres 15w 40 Castrol GTX also added 300ml of STP for diesel engines Have since found out that Peugeot recommend 5w 40 oil only for Hdi diesel engines. Have driven the car for about 120 miles no probems so far, will I be OK to continue using the car with 15w 40 oil in it or am I likely to do any damage? Thanks for any advice. Regards, Tonyredz.

PEUGEOT 406 Hdi - OIL CHANGE BLUNDER Peugeot 406 Hdi - Collos25

You won't do any real damage to your car but you have to your wallet using a snake oil additive .

PEUGEOT 406 Hdi - OIL CHANGE BLUNDER Peugeot 406 Hdi - injection doc
good advice from Andy, you may notice a reduction in fuel consumption as well, thats why they use a 5/grade oil. If we have a cold morning with oil addative in the engine it may struggle to start. If the engine is really cold and you rev it it may stall if the lifters jack up caused by too much oil pressure.
PEUGEOT 406 Hdi - OIL CHANGE BLUNDER Peugeot 406 Hdi - Peter D

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Regards Peter

PEUGEOT 406 Hdi - OIL CHANGE BLUNDER Peugeot 406 Hdi - maximus

I would say that if your car has a D.P.F. you may be best off changing the oil for the ones specifically recommended for these engines. These oils are low ash to avoid clogging DPF. Total/Elf are usually specified, but, if you can find the equivalent spec it should be ok. Good luck.

PEUGEOT 406 Hdi - OIL CHANGE BLUNDER Peugeot 406 Hdi - maximus

Sorry, just noticed it's 2003, probably may not have dpf.

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Interestingly, I have a 99 406 HDi, and use 10/40 and have done for the last 70k with no adverse problems.
PEUGEOT 406 Hdi - OIL CHANGE BLUNDER Peugeot 406 Hdi - ajs2

I dont think it's a big issue with tempresures being high, but when it gets cold the oil may cause low oil pressure and might make thing wear out and that would most likely be the turbo. I not a peugeot expert but turbo and very sensitive to oil and oil condition.

I would change the oil as it's coming up to winter, unless you do loads of motorway driving!

PEUGEOT 406 Hdi - OIL CHANGE BLUNDER Peugeot 406 Hdi - injection doc

Well AJS2 i think you are confused about tempertures and high and low oil pressure!!!!!!

Oil is thicker when cold which causes higher oil pressure but possible lack of lubrication on start up when the oil is slow to circulate.high temp thins the oil out and wear is most likley to take place if the oil exceeds its temp range and the effectiveness of the oil is reduced.

High oil pressure on a cold engine can cause hydraulic lifters to "jack up" and decompress the engine. The oil pressure is controlled by an oil pressure relief valve but these can only cope within a certain range so adding an adative on a hiher grade of oil would make the oil very thick when cold causing more resistance in the engine straining the starter and possibly exceeding the oil pressure range when cold.

PEUGEOT 406 Hdi - OIL CHANGE BLUNDER Peugeot 406 Hdi - boggles

Tony, you are unlikely to have done any harm with the thicker oil. In the mild ambient temperatures, we have at the moment, cold cranking will not be a problem. I would consider just doing another oil change, before temperatures drop. The STP will temporarily make the oil more "slippery", rather than thick, and will mostly go out with the draining oil. Ignore the incorrect comments about it!

PEUGEOT 406 Hdi - OIL CHANGE BLUNDER Peugeot 406 Hdi - injection doc

"Ignore the incorrect comments about it!" and then boggles goes on to say " I would consider changing the oil before tempertures drop !

Damage is unlikley yes, upping the grade of oil will do no harm especially on a worn engine but economey can be effected but the Oil addative, over and above whet the oil manufactures already use WILL make the oil thicker when cold.

The worse risk is, and does happen is shearing the oil pump drive when the engine is cold due to excess load! and on the epycyclic type pumps they are not uncommon to crack a gear. Obviously these are the worse senarios and infact some years ago some cars used to be prone to blowing oil filters actually off their housings when too thick an oil was used or addative.

Boggles I suggest you make sure you are armed with an ammeter with a 900 amp range and take a starter load test on a car at 0 degrees then add some oil addative and then take another start test reading at 0 degrees the following day and you will be shocked at the increase in starter current drain!!!!! always best to know your facts before you make contrdictory remarks!

PEUGEOT 406 Hdi - OIL CHANGE BLUNDER Peugeot 406 Hdi - boggles

Doc, perhaps you should re-read my post. I actually said ignore the comments about the STP. It does no harm and the effects are temporary. I did not go on to say change the oil, I said that first. My post was simply to reassure someone who has had a slightly heavier oil in during the warm weather. Do you think your paragraph about blown filters and sheared pump drives are just a little unhelpful to the OP? Talking about knowing facts, I have been working in the oil additive development business for 26 years, and built, tested and dismantled many engines. Cold cranking tests are all part of the process, I am very familiar with the facts you state. I just don't see the need to tell everyone these things, when all the OP wanted was someone to tell him his engine would not be harmed.

PEUGEOT 406 Hdi - OIL CHANGE BLUNDER Peugeot 406 Hdi - 406lover
I don't think you can do any harm to an old engine this way. Even the oil-pump leaks enough internally to protect it from damage. Let the car warm up slightly longer before you pull away.

I also suspect oil rapidly loses its edge (certainly changes colour) very quickly, so worn oil of the wrong viscosity will do no more harm that new oil of the right viscosity would do.

I'm more interested to know how long it is until I have a 50/50 chance (or maybe 20/80 chance) of snapping the cam belt - I bet it's at least twice the distance that Peugeot promise. Why? Well, they have to deliver 99% reliability in new cars as regards just this one respect, and I'm not operating to their standard.

When you think I have the diesel 2l HDi version, slow-revving and used quite gently I'll probably get a belt-life better than most anyway. I also trust Peugeot enough to think they made sure the pulleys wear out and rattle long before the belt dies. True, at 113,000 miles the whole engine is noisier than it was, but see if I care. The kind of problems I fear on my 2001 model are changing the rear brake pads.