Man Sur,

Now that I got DSG and a Horn in the middle of the steering wheel that I can thump & hold....................I LOVE roundabouts.

Mind you them mirrors with the indicators in will be more expensive to replace.

Tee hee

...and of equal annoyance, that other favourite roundabout habit, the complete lack of indicators! Or, even more irritating, the driver turning right who uses no signals whatsoever all the way around the roundabout, leaving others to pull out after reading their completely misleading 'signal' only to see them continue round the roundabout and end up coming straight at them....and then they signal to leave the roundabout! As if that somehow helps, after doing full circle with no indicators on at all! Prats :-l

Roads are generally busy places and you'll never have 100% perfect drivers so complaining about others is a stress inducing and futile exercise.

It's far better to hone your own skills and be prepared for every other driver doing something unexpected.

How much extra training have HJ drivers had since passing their test and how often do they 'retest' themselves?

Edited by daveyjp on 09/10/2010 at 22:05

2. Bus drivers who STOP on the RAB and flash out a driver from his left??? What the hell!? Surely thats illegal. First buses in Hampshire seem to do this a lot.

I have a theory about this, the drivers are from some far off country in the EC where the 'let vehicles on' rule applies.

I seem to think a EC PCV licence is valid anywhere in the EC.

(I could be wrong, I often am!)

"On roundabouts with lanes, my rule of thumb is never to try and pass another vehicle, whether on your left or right, unless you're sure which way they're going."

This is a valid point but if three of you are waiting to enter the roundabout and a gap appears, all three vehicles will pull off at the same time and then when the left hand vehicle then cuts across that's when the problems occur.

Incidentally, apparently in Germany you should only indicate when you about to exit, so if you transfer that to here, it would mean if you were going right on a roundabout you would not indicate right you would just indicate left before you were about to exit. Its meant to be a safety rule to ensure there are no mix ups with drivers attempting to enter the roundabout. However, I think roundabouts are only used at smaller junctions in towns so probably wouldn't cause to many queues.

And then there are the roundabouts in Boston USA - drivers don't have to navigate roundabouts in their driving lessons in Boston (one of the few places in USA that has roundabouts) - so there are no rules when driving on roundabouts in Boston - its just drive and hope!!

Edited by ripjean on 10/10/2010 at 16:08

I think the lane markings are often to blame.

Some islands have the lanes opening out in a spiral pattern as you go around, which works well.

Often however you follow the correct direction only to find yourself on the inside of the island, wanting to turn off with the island stacked with traffic. -- Very perilous! don't traffic planners think of this?

Edited by mustangman on 11/10/2010 at 20:30

Mini roundabouts they must have been dreamt up by somebody having more than one pint or a bright spark in a office bored.:)

You moved like Grease Lightning as the film goes :)