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Hazards of left foot braking re the Toyota debacle - dieseldogg

As in it occurs to me.

If one is conditioned to brake with ones right foot and one starts braking with ones left as advocated by HJ, or indeed both feet in an emergency, as I have also seen advocated

Surely the chances are therefore increased in an emergency of braking with the left foot on the brake pedal whilst "braking" with the right foot on the accelerator, but thinking it is on the brake.

Mixed messages and all that.

jat

M

Hazards of left foot braking re the Toyota debacle - Dutchie

Hello,when i drove the honda jazz auto,i used the right foot for gas and braking.I tried using my left foot for braking did't feel comfortable with it.Maybe my skill level i class myself as a average driver .

Hazards of left foot braking re the Toyota debacle - barney100

I've been driving autos for a while now and for me left foot braking is not natural. The advantage I see to right foot braking is that as a right handed/footed individual my dominant foot does all the work. I can't kick left footed or play golf left handed so my right side is boss. My left foot feels very unsure when i have tried to use it to brake and I can't control as Ican the right.

Hazards of left foot braking re the Toyota debacle - Avant

Point taken, dieseldogg, but you could argue that it's even more dangerous, and happens more often, for someone to press the accelerator with their right foot thinking it's the brake.

That's one of the reasons why HJ advocates left-foot braking, and it's a good habit to get into (though it takes time) if you only drive automatics. If you have a manual in the family or at work which you also drive, I personally would stick to right-foot braking.

Hazards of left foot braking re the Toyota debacle - SteveLee
An old friend of mine left-foot brakes - he often accidentally touches the brakes whilst driving and sometimes rests is left foot on the brake causing his brake lights to stay on! I think it's a stupid idea and will indeed lead to wrong pedal pressed moments in an emergency, let alone the extra heat my above friend dumps into his brakes and transmission for lightly braking under power.
Hazards of left foot braking re the Toyota debacle - dieseldogg

Avent, that is exactly my point.

If only right foot braking, one should notice that one still has the foot on the accelerator, and move it to the brake. Or one should NOT be driving.

However if there is some braking effect from left foot braking, whilst the right is still pressing the accelerator?

mixed messages.

Cheers

M

Hazards of left foot braking re the Toyota debacle - galileo

Some years back I had an automatic, my wife had a manual: I left foot braked in the auto but had no problem changing when I drove my wife's car (having to change gear with the lever is a good reminder!)

I then had a manual car, but on business trips to the USA, it was easy to change back to left foot braking (and being on the 'wrong' side of the road) in the automatic hire cars one gets there.

I think that concentrating on your driving to the exclusion of conversation, fiddling with radios, music systems, etc is the key to avoiding confusion, at least until you have really imprinted the correct actions.

Hazards of left foot braking re the Toyota debacle - Auristocrat

The US authorities have since found that with the 50 something reported incidents involving Toyota crashes, in 35 neither the brake or accelerator pedals were used, and in 9 both pedals were used. Their findings, although yet to be published, seem to be pointing towards driver error in these cases.

Hazards of left foot braking re the Toyota debacle - tdc

You can retrain your brain to do a lot of things differently but you then you may have to retrain it back if you needed to revert to previous mode of action.Slightly different concept but ...there was a chap in 1920`s New York if I remember the story correctly,who made himself some upside-down glasses which he wore for several weeks.Eventually his brain adjusted to everything being transposed and it became the norm.On removing the glasses,at first normal perspective seemed totally alien to him but eventually his brain readjusted.There must be a makings of a TV prog here?!

Years ago I experimented by hustling a motor through a twisty series of sharp corners(no traffic or blind bends) using left foot braking,car/kart racers were doing it to allow instant throttle/brake/car control without the lag associated with conventional approach.I realised that it`s like anything new,while you are learning it you are thinking of the process,it`s not an automatic action/reaction,therefore time is wasted not gained initially.

I expect there are a fair few car racers around nowadays who have always driven like this even on the road.If you have a vehicle with no foot-operated clutch,and you have quick reactions,are physically fit with a sharp non-addled brain then maybe it`d be fine,but for Mr Average like you&me to try and chop&change between the two different processes of thought could be a recipe for disaster

A racer wont be distracted by all the millions of extraneous sights/sounds/thoughts of an everyday tired,stressed-out commuter on crowded,greasy cambered/off-cambered,stop-go roads.Can we as Joe Public expect to out-drive a racer?

Having owned over 60 motorcycles of various makes&capacities as well as once working in the bike trade I often had to jump from a Jap/Ger/Italian etc bike with right-foot-braking onto a Brit left-foot-braking mount and you had to have your wits about you.Probably was ok for me as started out on Brit bikes and have always worked in trades where I had constantly changing situations so don`t have fixed mind-set.

Be interesting to hear from left-footed or ambidextrous drivers and a few racers too don`t you think?.

Hazards of left foot braking re the Toyota debacle - Ernied

During my 50yrs as a mechanic I spent about six of them working on the Daf / Volvo variomatic cars. Left foot braking was essential for manoeuvring on the forecourt and in the workshop, and after a couple of days it becomes so natural that right foot braking feels clumsy. I got so used to it that on one occasion when I had to drive an Auto Bedford CF van, I felt extremely uncomfortable as the steering column passed too close to the brake pedal for easy left foot braking. I must say that normal right foot braking with a manual gearbox posed no problems at all.

We used to service a few disabled drivers cars with a left foot throttle - I could never get used to them, and refused to road test them - the workshop foreman had to do it.

Edited by Ernied on 06/10/2010 at 20:53

Hazards of left foot braking re the Toyota debacle - dieseldogg

Strangly enough "training" oneself on differing machinery & equipment is quite remarkable, the human brain ( in most instances) being able to subconiscley ( Erm spelling) remember the different permutions of hand and foot controls required, as soon as one puts ones bum in the seat...... plently of drill & practise & repitition required there though.

I once drove a BX that jumped out of 5th, I developed the "knack" of sensing when this would happen ,( without ever figgering out how) clutching and popping her back into gear, all automatically, the occasional passenger looked a bit puzzled bytimes.