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whats the actual law? - towing with an A frame - track

Been scouring the net for a while and cant find a definate answer to this one. What is the law with regards to towing a vehicle on an A frame set up that bolts to the lower arms?

I know I need to fix a light board to the back of the towed vehicle to ensure there are visible signals, but is it still a legal method o towing? My trade insurance states I can tow fully insured so long as Im not doing it for reward/money, which I wouldnt be. My car is capable fo towing 1.4 ton legally and the towbar a lot more.

whats the actual law? - towing with an A frame - Sofa Spud

Until someone comes up with a full, definitive answer:..............................

Unless the car is the subject of a recovery operation, it counts as a trailer. A trailer with a gross permissible weight of more than 750 kg has to be fitted with operable brakes - e.g. over-run brakes as on caravans. Most cars weigh more than 750 kg when empty, so wouldn't they need to have operating brakes while being towed?

I have an idea that there used to be special A-frames which had an over-run coupling that operated, via a cable or hydraulic hose routed through the open driver's window, a device wedged inside the car that depressed the brake pedal - very 'Heath Robinson' !!

I found this, which looks pretty definitive:

http://www.wildcamping.co.uk/forums/motorhome-knowledge-base/7508-frame-towing-definitive-answer.html

Looks like it would be safer, easier and more legal to use a braked trailer to transport the car.

Edited by Sofa Spud on 21/09/2010 at 22:39

whats the actual law? - towing with an A frame - towingaframes

The law is quite clear on this. When a vehicle is being towed it is classed as a trailer. If that trailer (vehicle) is fitted with brakes THEY MUST WORK no matter what the weight of the trailer is. Any other advice can leave you open to prosecution so your A Frame MUST have a method of making the brakes work - usually via an over run braking system on the hitch.

Edited by Avant on 07/10/2020 at 23:21

whats the actual law? - towing with an A frame - RT

Trailers under 750kg gross DON'T need brakes - but ALL trailers over 750kg GROSS weight MUST have brakes on all wheels in contact with the ground. Furthermore they must be operated automatically by the over-run hitch.

Although some microcars are under 750kg kerbweight none of them are under the 750kg GROSS so all A-frames MUST brake all the wheels of the car being towed.

That's for the UK - most of Europe is the same but Spain doesn't allow A-frames at all.

There are of course other important issues for conventional automatics (torque converter and planetary gears) as well as 4wd vehicles - most of which can't be towed.

It's much easier to use a car trailer - but of course that's more expensive than an A-frame.

There are dispensations for broken-down vehicles being towed - but they have to be genuinely broken down, it can't be used as a cover story.

Edited by RT on 05/12/2011 at 16:55

whats the actual law? - towing with an A frame - TeeCee

>It's much easier to use a car trailer - but of course that's more expensive than an A-frame.

A good compromise here is a thing that I used to use called a "Transpolette". A hitch with two wheels (like a very small "T bar" boat trailer) and a thing that looks like a pair of spectacles on top which rotates. The front (or rear - lock the steering!) wheels of the towed vehicle sit on this, secured with clamp straps. Braking on the thing itself. As the driven wheels are kept off the floor, it works for autos too. Light board attaches to the axle when no car is in place and comes on a long lead so it can be unclipped and attached to the aft end of the towed vehicle. The effect is to provide the same arrangement on any towbar equipped vehicle that you see on the back of a recovery truck, only with ramps rather than a hydraulic lift (helps if the vehicle being moved works - otherwise it's brute force time).

Used to be cheap as chips to hire when needed too, much cheaper than a full car trailer. I remember once taking a car into a body shop on one. The bloke running it looked and said; "That's a good idea, we must get one of those."......

whats the actual law? - towing with an A frame - RT

Towing dollies still require ALL the wheels on the ground to be braked so that's even more complication than a braked A-frame.

Dispensations for towing broken down vehicles on dollies are different.

whats the actual law? - towing with an A frame - boggles

I called the police a couple of weeks ago, on this subject. I was helping a friend to tidy his premises, including removal of four scrap vehicles. They never mentioned the need for braking,(could have forgotten, i suppose), but what they said was that should you tow on a rope, obviously needing a driver aboard to brake / steer, the towed vehicle must be insured. If using a "A" frame, then the car need not be insured or anything else, as it's attached to a legal vehicle. In the end, all were collected, one though was removed with a simple "A" frame towed by a flatbed carrying another car.

whats the actual law? - towing with an A frame - RT

Scrap vehicles count as "broken down" so the braking rules don't apply.

whats the actual law? - towing with an A frame - Tony Maris

Since October 2012, all trailers first used on U.K. roads need to be type approved. Cars on an ‘A’ frame are classed as trailers. No ‘A’ frame/car combination Is type approved therefore ALL are illegal! Simples....

whats the actual law? - towing with an A frame - mcb100
2011 says thank you.
whats the actual law? - towing with an A frame - Fullchat

"I called the police a couple of weeks ago, on this subject."

I think you will find that the level of knowledge of traffic related matters, other than run of the mill stuff' is low to non existent.

You will probably have been advised by someone using Google and it may be their interpretation.