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Speed Camera and cyclist - Carl2

Can a cyclist trigger one of those 30mph Slow Down warnings.? As a 50+ overweight cyclist with a very strong wind behind me on the sea front . Inspired by "The Worlds Fastest Indian" I launched my unfit self and Halfords Mountain Bike in the direction of the sign but not even a flicker. I have no idea what speed I reached but it was definately over 30. It is now my aim to trigger this sign. Whats required. More speed? Metal area? Heat? or is it a sensor in the surface. Obviously I would never break a speed limit so this is written on behalf of an anonymous friend.

Speed Camera and cyclist - Rob C

Did you have an accurate speedo to tell you it was over 30mph?

I'd doubt the gear development on an MTB would get you over that by much. Mind you, when I were a slip of a lad, my friend and I managed 56mph downhill, on road bikes. 52x12 gear on 700c wheels, I think.

Speed Camera and cyclist - bathtub tom

Don't attempt it.

I fit your category, we don't bounce as well as we used to and it hurts a lot more now. It only needs the slightest thing to go wrong and believe me, the NHS ain't all it's cracked up to be.

Speed Camera and cyclist - pmh3

I would suggest that you need to increase the size of your radar signature, either eat more pies (altho this will probably have the effect of slowing you down!) or possibly wrap your self in aluminium foil. This will have the additional benefit that the aliens will not be able to get at you, as long as you cover your head as well.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stealth_technology

:)

Speed Camera and cyclist - pmh3

I would suggest that you need to increase the size of your radar signature, either eat more pies (altho this will probably have the effect of slowing you down!) or possibly wrap your self in aluminium foil. This will have the additional benefit that the aliens will not be able to get at you, as long as you cover your head as well.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stealth_technology

Sorry for the double post - the aliens must be trying to prevent me from posting, at the first attempt I received an error message from the HJ site.

Edited by pmh3 on 18/06/2010 at 10:42

Speed Camera and cyclist - Carl2

Bikes now a hybrid with lightweight wheels and high pressure smooth tyres it evolved this way to cope with a worn out back after my more sporting bike became uncomfortable. I would have overtaken two cars that passed me earlier had I not slowed down and I am pretty sure they were driving at the limit. I only attempted it because there was a very strong wind behind me. Any idea what activates these signs?

Speed Camera and cyclist - Carl2

I must have been typing my last post when the last reply came in hence the confusion with me asking the question that has now been answered. Ironically it was an NHS misdiagnosis that has put me out of work and allows me to spend my time so productively.

Speed Camera and cyclist - runnerbean14

I have figured out how to do this - it took me quite a few attempts. I too am a fiftysomething cyclist; tall but on the leaner side! Methodology is as follows:

1. Find one of these flashing signboards that's on a downhill stretch - it's almost impossible for anyone but a pro time-trialler to pull this off on the flat

2. Get a decent racing bike and get reasonably fit

3. Fit a speedo so you know how 30+ mph feels - (IMHO, fast enough that if you fall off you will know all about it)

4. Practice taking one hand off the bars at this speed - don't wobble, it can be terminal

5. Go like hell (you will need to see 34+mph on your speedo) and as you get into the range of the sign's radar, punch the air with one hand. It raises your radar signature just enough to set the sign off

6. Make sure someone is there with a camera to record the sign flashing (and you flying through the air if you wobble and fall off)

Very satisfying - if puerile. But hey, no numberplates means no risk of prosecution!

Speed Camera and cyclist - Mil1194

......agree with no numberplates bit but potentially a lot of blood and bits for DNA purposes if required :-)

Speed Camera and cyclist - Sofa Spud

My bicycle won't even trigger the sensor on the traffic lights near my home - they stay on red and I have to wait until a car comes along or get off and push along the pavement. I won't ride my bike through a red light because a) I don't do that sort of thing and b) it could get me penalty points on my driving licence, something I've never had up to now.

What about a galloping horse, would that trigger the camera? If there's a rider on the horse, presumably a speeding offence has been committed. But what if a horse is riderless?

Another technicality I've queried before is whether a speed limit applies to an indefinite altitude above a public highway. For example, is an aircraft following the route of a motorway, travelling at 200 mph at 2000 ft, technically breaking the speed limit? Does a vehicle need to be in contact with the road for the speed limit to apply? If not, could a driver of a small hovercraft be prosecuted for speeding if they drive it at over 70 mph on a motorway? Despite the fact that they would be committing many other traffic offences, but would they technically be speeding?

Edited by Sofa Spud on 18/06/2010 at 23:33

Speed Camera and cyclist - bathtub tom

>>get off and push along the pavement.

Technically, you're still breaking the law by passing a red light!

>>it could get me penalty points on my driving licence

I don't know where you got that load of old tosh from. An offence committed on a bicycle cannot give you points on a driving licence.

Speed Camera and cyclist - Sofa Spud

I know it's technically against the law to get off a bike and push along the pavement through red lights. I seem to remember that it's the getting off the bike that is relevant - if you were pushing the bike on the pavement anyway, as you approach the lights, I believe it's OK to continue pushing through the lights - it's only when you are cycling and stop, get off and push that an offence might be committed.

Perhaps someone can clarify this. If one is wheeling a bike along the pavement, you're doing the same as someone pushing a pushchair, shopping trolley or wheeled zimmer frame.

QUOTE:..."" don't know where you got that load of old tosh from. An offence committed on a bicycle cannot give you points on a driving licence.""

Are you sure? Locally a woman was banned from driving for a year after she was caught driving a sit-on lawnmower around the estate where she lived while over the drink / drive limit. I'm pretty sure that I was told that during my HGV training many years ago that a traffic offence committed on a pedal cycle can lead to points on your driving licence - or perhaps it was the HGV licence, when that was separate.

Edited by Sofa Spud on 19/06/2010 at 12:09

Speed Camera and cyclist - bathtub tom

A sit-on mower is a motorised vehicle!

Speed Camera and cyclist - pmh3

A sit-on mower is a motorised vehicle!

And so is an electric golf cart as somebody found to their cost recently.

Speed Camera and cyclist - Carl2

I think my plan may have been floored by the fact that I peaked at the sign. Should I have peaked at some point prior to the sign? I wouldn't dare lift my hand into the air if this is required. I'll have another go next time we get some 30mph + winds

Speed Camera and cyclist - Rob C

Its a terrible affliction, peaking at the wrong time.

Speed Camera and cyclist - davecooper

Getting 30mph+ on the flat is more diffcult than you think. With a headwind, I doubt you would do it, and on an MTB..... I am a reasonably fit regular cyclist and know full well how hard it is to hit 30mph+ on the flat, even on my carbon road bike.

Speed Camera and cyclist - Carl2

Getting 30mph+ on the flat is more diffcult than you think. With a headwind, I doubt you would do it, and on an MTB..... I am a reasonably fit regular cyclist and know full well how hard it is to hit 30mph+ on the flat, even on my carbon road bike.

I am sure you are correct Dave. I just stuck in MTB in my post because I couldn't be bothered to put aluminium framed hybrid with kevlar reinforced high pressure smooth tyres ( seemed a bit long winded as I only wanted to know what triggered the sign). Its a pretty good place to pick up a bit of breeze its in line with a wind farm . The 87 breeze ripped the roofs off some of the buildings along this bit of the sea front. Probably never will manage it but I'll keep trying.

Speed Camera and cyclist - Bilboman

While we're on the subject, I would very much welcome technology that would catch, snap and if possibly instantly punish a cyclist cycling through a red light or zipping over a zebra crossing with a pedestrian in the process of crossing. If I had a pound for every time...... My idea of a punishment would include a force field with a tingling electric shock just short of a Taser but a softer option of a water cannon or custard pie would be equally satisfying.

AFAIC, if a cyclist dismounts and becomes a pedestrian and wheels his/her bike on the pavement without inconveniencing any other pedestrian, good luck to 'em. I'd be quite happy to provide for parents supervising kids on bikes with stabilisers to use the pavement, providing pedestrians have absolute priority. But these red light jumping maniacs have just got to be stopped in their tracks.

Speed Camera and cyclist - davecooper

Agree 100% Bilboman. As both a cyclist and a driver I obey all traffic signs and signals when on the bike as I would in the car. It beggars belief when I am sitting at a set of red lights and another bike comes past me and through the red lights at unabated speed or just as bad, mounts the pavement to avoid pedestrian lights. While on the subject, I was sitting at the front of a queue at a set of temporary lights when a motorcyclist went past all the queueing traffic and straight through the red lights. The roadworks were a few hundred meters long and on a bend so oncoming traffic would be unsighted. I like to think the guy made a mistake and doesn't do this regularly....