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Dark evenings and dangerous drivers - HF
Is it me or has certain people's driving got even worse since we put the clocks back?

Driving early this evening, maybe 6.30-ish, I hit heavy traffic on a duel-lane road, normally fast-flowing road. Rush-hour, I know, my fault for chancing it at this time. Traffic was flowing at maybe walking pace or a little more, but it was choc-a-bloc in both lanes.

At one point in this road, it becomes single-lane for a while, between 2 sets of traffic lights. So, as the single lane part was approaching, cars were filtering in to he left lane, as is the norm. I was in the LH lane, and pulled back a little so the guy next to me in the RH lane could pull in in front of me. Then I carried on moving, and became aware of a car behind me in the RH lane coming up as fast as was posible in the circumstances and trying to force me further over to the let (which was impossible for me to do without mounting the pavement). I carried on forward, determined that I was not going to be forced off the road by some aggressive teenage driver (male or female) but the car persisted. Glancing to the right, I saw the car, literally no more than an inch from mine, come forward again and then make to swerve around the front of my car. I hooted, twice, to warn them of what they were doing, but they took no notice. I had no choice but to stop sharp, risking a bump in the back, to avoid that car hitting the front of mine. As it went past and in front of me, I looked over expecting to see a boy-racer type or young female in daddy's car. It was, in fact, an elderly couple, at least into their seventies, I would say, both studiously glaring ahead and refusing to even apologise/indicate that they had done something wrong.

At the next set of lights they swerved back into the RH lane as they wished to turn right, they were lucky the car behind them braked as I had done.

I know this stuff happens all the time - but in the last week I seem to have had to do so much evasive action, much more than usual, and wondered if any others of you have experienced the same?

Is it the night falling in quicker that is causing more dangerous action? Or did I just get lucky with Mr and Mrs 'We're pensioners so we can do what we like'? (no reflection on most pensioners at all, for whom I have the greatest respect, but you know the type I mean).
Dark evenings and dangerous drivers - Paul Mykatz-Tinks

There's only one solution, HF.

Compusory euthanasia for Hell's Grannies (and Grandads).

Write to your MP.
Dark evenings and dangerous drivers - crazed
on the way for 2nites takeaway i had the young agressive male idiot...

pulls out in front of me - and then gets out and wants a fight !

i remember being a bit of an idiot at that age, but never that bad

oh to have a warrant card and be able to do something to curb this crap
Dark evenings and dangerous drivers - BrianW
"I hit heavy traffic on a duel-lane road"

A Freudian slip, maybe. But "duel" lane road says it all! ;-)
Dark evenings and dangerous drivers - HF
Brian please explain!!! I'm not very good with motoring terms and this was not a slip, just the best way I could think to describe the road I was on! As in not a duel carriageway but a road with 2 lanes in each direction.

Glad if I've given you a laugh though ;)
Dark evenings and dangerous drivers - BrianW
HF
The term for a road with a central island is "DUAL carriageway".

The way you spelt it, "DUEL" is the term for a fight between two people.

Freud was a psychiatrist who, IIRC, had a theory that "unintentional" mistakes had a subconcious cause.

HTH
Dark evenings and dangerous drivers - HF
Brian,

OMG so embarrassed now, and I'm usually a good speller!!!
Dark evenings and dangerous drivers - volvoman
Oh dear HF - you are losing the plot now aren't you ? ;-)
Dark evenings and dangerous drivers - Paul Mykatz-Tinks
HF.........try dual.

You need two people with spikey things or loud, bangy things for duels............
Dark evenings and dangerous drivers - Paul Mykatz-Tinks
Stop pushing in, BrianW, there's a queue you know!
Dark evenings and dangerous drivers - HF
Paul have you got a shovel I can borrow so I can gradually dig my way out of the hole in the ground that I just asked to swallow me?
Dark evenings and dangerous drivers - Blue {P}
If there's one plus point of the very dark nights, and it's that I see less of my number one enemy, people who drive on their sidelights. They tend to do this more in the summer "because it isn't dark enough for proper headlights". Oh, and of course they do it in fog as well, not realising that you can't see their sidelights until they're close enough for you to see the car anyway!

Rant over! :)
Dark evenings and dangerous drivers - BrianW
"If there's one plus point of the very dark nights, and it's that I see less of my number one enemy"

There's one MINUS point of very dark nights, and it's that I see less of my number one enemy, and that's people who drive round rural roads with only one headlight.
I'd like to see more of them, i.e. TWO headlights!
Dark evenings and dangerous drivers - Blue {P}
Yeah, that would also be nice. Although to be honest, I see a lot more ghost drivers with their sidelights than I do one eyed drivers who seem to think they're riding a motorbike! :) At least the MOT *should* force them to fix the car, no one makes people improve their standard of driving, ever.
Dark evenings and dangerous drivers - HF
Actually, Blue, you remind me here of something I meant to say in my earlier post. For reasons unknown, the past week the number of cars I have driven past with their full beam on has been incredible, many in full traffic, and the ones on country-ish lanes, where we might need a full beam, don't even have the courtesy to dip them anymore. Have been blinded by these so many times the last few days. It's hard enough to drive in driving rain, roads covered with slippery leaves and the remains of the trees from last sunday, in premature dark, without having the advantage of vision taken from you by those that have no consideration except that for themselves.
(or did I just forget to put my lights on and they were ALL flashing me?)
Dark evenings and dangerous drivers - BrianW
HF
If you think that's bad, try it on a motorbike.
No windscreen wipers, visor covered in raindrops, car coming the other way, zero vision!
Dark evenings and dangerous drivers - dave18
Methinks you forgot to put your lights on... thats if ur anything like my mother who never services any car ever, and has had 6 points in 4 months, one set for a red light, and then shouts at me about my speeding.
ANYWAY.. I think driving with full beam when there is oncoming traffic on country roads is one of the most stupid and selfish and pathetically ignorant things to do. Should carry 6 points but I doubt many ignorant hitlers, sorry traffic police, would bother.
Last night I was in a taxi; the driver was doing 50 in a 40 on an (unusually) traffic free stretch of straight road. Did they stop her? No. They followed at about 1.7cm from her car until she slowed down.
Point is, I'm becoming increasingly convinced that crap drivers who have their main beam on, squeeze in at the end of filter lanes (whatever u call 'em,) tailgate (hate that) etc... are just going to get away with it.
Promise I'll stop ranting now before Im banned.
Dark evenings and dangerous drivers - Paul Mykatz-Tinks
"Paul have you got a shovel"

Nah, worry not, we've all been there..........
Dark evenings and dangerous drivers - HF
Nah, worry not, we've all been there..........

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Well that's reassuring - however I believe on that note I should retire to my bedchamber and rejuvenate my dignity for another day.
Dark evenings and dangerous drivers - volvoman
Not sure this has anything to do with the time chnage but I've just seen a guy in an Orion 'coasting' down the main road at about 5mph ! It looked as if he'd run out of petrol but I couldn't be sure. What an idiot ! You should have seen the reaction of some of the other drivers - there were several 'near misses' !

Worst thing is that he had a young boy in the front with him whose life he was also risking !
Dark evenings and dangerous drivers - PLS


Helpless Female - Could this be linked to a problem with night vision or even the driver's normal eyesight?
Dark evenings and dangerous drivers - HF
PLS - no, my eyesight is very good, my night vision I would say is as good as anyone else's! If people are on full beam, main beam, whatever it's called, I get blinded, that's all.