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Does super unleaded improve fuel consumption? - stokie
I accidentally fueled up with super unleaded yesterday in place of normal unleaded.
Does super unleaded give greater mpg all other things beeing equal? If so what's the improvement in % terms? Has anyone tested this?
Does super unleaded improve fuel consumption? - Brian Tryzers
I used to put it in my 1998 Saab 9-3 when we took it to France, where the extra cost is less. My recollection is that it raised mpg from about 32 to more like 34, which offset the extra there but wasn't enough to justify paying the bigger premium in the UK.
Does super unleaded improve fuel consumption? - stunorthants26
Yes I tried it. On a 1.0 petrol manual, it did approx 3 mpg better conservatively. On my misses 1.3 auto, it was actually thirstier by about 2 mpg. We tried this several times. Still, the gains on my car dont equal the extra cost, but the engine on both cars did run slightly quieter - I also had this on a Daewoo Nubira some years ago.
Does super unleaded improve fuel consumption? - SpamCan61 {P}
Well the octane content is effectively the energy content of the fuel IIRC, so, assuming the engine management system can utilise this extra energy, and the driver drives in the same way as normal, then I'd expect the economy to improve by the same percentage as the octane increase. so that's around 4%.
Does super unleaded improve fuel consumption? - PR {P}
Yes as long as the engine management system can alter the timing for the super unleaded then you should see a small increase in efficiency. However, it takes a couple of tanks for the car to fully "learn" the new timing so one tank of super will probably not make much difference.
Does super unleaded improve fuel consumption? - stokie
Thank you for your excellent answers
Does super unleaded improve fuel consumption? - cjehuk
Depends on the car - a basic 1.6 with no turbo etc, probably nothing gained. In the case of a high performance engine then you're more likely to gain something. In the 2.0T FSI engine in my TT it tends to make the engine run smoother and usually turns in about the same or slightly better MPG. The bigger benefit is the engine is more responsive though.
Does super unleaded improve fuel consumption? - Jcoventry
Not much point in using super unleaded unless you have a sporty engine, turbos, etc.
Does super unleaded improve fuel consumption? - Pica
I thought your engine needed to be tuned accordingly to take advantage of the higher octane benefits.
Does super unleaded improve fuel consumption? - Pugugly
VAG's 2.0TSi shouldn't be run on anything less !
Does super unleaded improve fuel consumption? - Pica
I had my Mustang tuned specifically to use the octane I specified and the tuner said to me there would only be a marginal difference to performance between 95 and 98 RON at the top end of the graph. I am not sure about the cleaning/additive differences though.

Does super unleaded improve fuel consumption? - maz64
I thought your engine needed to be tuned accordingly to take advantage of the higher
octane benefits.


I think the modern ECU engines effectively self-tune, don't they?
Does super unleaded improve fuel consumption? - SpamCan61 {P}
SQ
I think the modern ECU engines effectively self-tune don't they?



Yes.

Edited by Dynamic Dave on 23/12/2009 at 13:14

Does super unleaded improve fuel consumption? - Hamsafar
NO! higher octane = lower calorific value (kJ/kg), every molecule of aromatic is displacing a molecule of fuel.
You are effectively getting less useful fuel.
www.elektro.com/~audi/fuel/gasoline.chemical.analy...s

Edited by Hamsafar on 23/12/2009 at 12:30

Does super unleaded improve fuel consumption? - SpamCan61 {P}
Bang goes my theory then :-)
Does super unleaded improve fuel consumption? - L'escargot
Well the octane content is effectively the energy content of the fuel ,,,,,,,,,,,


The octane rating is a measure of its resistance to "knock", not its calorific value.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating
Does super unleaded improve fuel consumption? - macavity
www.which.co.uk/reviews-ns/petrol-and-diesel-super...p
Does super unleaded improve fuel consumption? - maz64
www.which.co.uk/reviews-ns/petrol-and-diesel-super...p


£1 (month's trial) to see results.
Does super unleaded improve fuel consumption? - Muggy
It certainly does on mine, which is a proper pre-electronics engine.

I consistently get 50mpg + from a 13 year old Suzuki Swift 993cc automatic with ( usually ) BP Ultimate; when I was using the ordinary stuff previously I was typically getting 35 - 40mpg.
Does super unleaded improve fuel consumption? - corax
I started using BP Ultimate in my BMW 323 estate about a year ago, and after a few tankfuls there is a significant difference. It has more power, and runs smoother. I only do 5-6000 miles a year so the extra fuel cost is negligible compared to the extra pleasure it brings in driving. Would thoroughly recommend it to anyone with a performance engine.
Does super unleaded improve fuel consumption? - turbo11
Depends on the vehicle. I ran my Mazda 6 for five years on Optimax,Ultimate and V-Power.On my daily 140 mile commute Optimax (then became V-Power) regularly gave me an extra 3mpg.Ultimate only gained 1mpg.Strangely enough my new Mazda 5 will barely gain 1-1.5mpg using V-power,although both cars are smoother when running any super unleaded over regular 95.
Does super unleaded improve fuel consumption? - Harleyman
I've never bothered with cars, as I'm of the opinion that it's a waste of money unless you do any "spirited" driving, but the modern Harleys seem to run better with on super; odd since you'd think that being American they'd happily deal with lower octane fuels.

The greatest benefit seems to be in winter, using super unleaded seems to delay carburettor icing.
Does super unleaded improve fuel consumption? - DP
The octane rating is simply the resistance to detonation (the fuel is harder to set on fire). The higher the octane rating, the more ignition advance can be run and the more power produced. As has been said above, modern engines use knock sensors to run maximum advance, and can adjust their timing "on the fly". On engines without knock sensors, no advantage is possible from high octane fuel unless the ignition is advanced by mechanical or other means.

This resistance to detonation is why many high compression or forced induction engines require high octane fuel.

One of the leading high octane fuel brands is also said to "age" better so for things like mowers and laid up motorcycles, can have some benefit when it comes to getting the things fired up again after being stored.
Does super unleaded improve fuel consumption? - corax
DP

I'd rather put some preservative in the fuel for my lawnmower than run it on premium super unleaded, unless I was going lawnmower racing with a briggs and stratton equipped with knock sensors and ecu!

I used to have a friend that was convinced that a knock sensor was a device to stop the engine in the event of 'detecting' a crash. He wouldn't accept the truth. Ah well, some people always know best. He did remind me of David Brent from The Office...
Does super unleaded improve fuel consumption? - Lygonos
US fuel is roughly the same as in the UK. The difference is they report octane rating differently - US 89 RON regular is approx same as UK 95 RON.
Does super unleaded improve fuel consumption? - macavity
www.carbibles.com/fuel_engine_bible_pg2.html
Does super unleaded improve fuel consumption? - Harleyman
Fascinating reading, Macavity; thank you.