Focus's are not in short supply, so why do you want to risk this one?
Walk away
MVP
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Interesting development.
The trader is now offerring to replace the fuel pump.
Would this basically solve my problem?
Steve
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That's one part of your problem certainly, along with the injectors.
It's also an admission that your worries are entirely grounded in fact. Run away!
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>>> The trader is now offerring to replace the fuel pump.
Would this basically solve my problem? <<<
Ever thought of becoming a comedian?
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SQEver thought of becoming a comedian?
no, why?
Edited by Dynamic Dave on 12/05/2009 at 11:19
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Ever thought of becoming a comedian?
no, why? <<<
Well friend, it seems (to me) that the concensus of opinion is *not* to buy.
Obviously the final decision rests with you but ... The Focus is the Uk's most popular mid-range family car so I would strongly suggest you look elsewhere.
Good Luck!
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The trader is now offerring to replace the fuel pump. Would this basically solve my problem?
Not really solving your problem - more solving the dealers' problem. If it's conceded already that a new fuel pump might be needed - what else later on? Also, by accepting a new fuel pump together with the disclosures already, you may be compromising your SoGA/warranty rights later.
It's interesting when the purchase psychology gets reveresed in this way. You're looking for reasons to buy, despite misgivings. Imagine if you'd seen a list of cars, all in your target range - maybe a few hundred quid difference in price spread. In that list, would you pick out the one with a misfuelling history - just on the 'benefit' of slightly cheaper price, or chance that no longlasting damage had been done? Probably not I'd say. To do so would be to risk £1000's to save £100's.
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In fairness, I suspect if the car was started, it would have needed a lot more than a tank drain and flush. A friend did this to his brand new E90 320d last year, and it managed half a mile before spluttering to a halt. The bill came to a few pence short of £5,000. New high pressure pump, four new injectors, new fuel lines and seals, plus the required calibration and set up.
A drain and flush wouldn't suffice in this case, and certainly wouldn't have provided another 30,000 miles worth of service. If it had happened last week, that's one thing.
Edited by DP on 12/05/2009 at 11:04
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It's "focuses" or "foci", not "focii".
Just saying.
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...It's "focuses" or "foci", not "focii"....
Much as I despair at the over use of capital letters, here and elsewhere, 'Focus' in this context is a trade name, so 'Focuses'.
Hope that focuses everybody's mind.
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DP, I thought the last I remember on this subject was that there was a whole load of scaremongering going on with the whole refuelling thing?
Was it not Auto Express or Which? or someone similar who did research and concluded that some dealers would replace everything except the ashtray if they could get away with it, and others agreed that it just needed a flush?
I could be wrong but in the example you quote, did they start with a flush first of all to see if it would work or was it just carte blanche repair , probably on insurance?
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Any second hand CRD carried the risk of previous unreported misfuelling. The fact that the misfuelling is known about is a good thing. At least you know what you are dealing with.
It is also common knowledge that misfuelled cars will very quickly die (like the BMW above) within a mile or so, so the fact that it has run for 31,000 miles thereafter implies that the car did not suffer the immediate catastrophic failure. It would have failed much earlier than that.
I would not bother with changing the fuel pump. If it was going to fail, it would have done so by now. Rather I would do one of two things. The obvious one is to walk away, espcially if there are similarly specced cars out there at a reasonable price. The second option is to agree to buy the car, but for the agreed price less the retail cost of fitting a new fuel pump. That way you have some comfort.
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Well at least you wouldn`t need to worry about whether it`s been misfueled OP. You know it has, at least twice!
For goodness sake, get your deposit back - otherwise you will likely be thinking about it for the rest of your ownership.
regards
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My seconhand TDDI failed after I'd had it three years at 30K miles. It certainly hadn't been misfuelled during my ownership - £1300!
How much is a new TDCI pump? Strange the seller is prepared to bear the cost!
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Thanks for all the patient replies trying with varying degrees of restraint to knock some sense into my dense cranium.
I walked away!
Steve
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Dealer should put it back tru the auction again
if it was sold to him without this mis-fueling story?
More than likely that's where it will end up
Edited by massey on 12/05/2009 at 19:12
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If that Avensis for £6995 is still available why not reconsider?
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If that Avensis for £6995 is still available why not reconsider?
...yes, but how do I know it's not been misfuelled (arrgghhh!!!)
In all honesty we liked how the Focus felt and drove so much that we really can't see past a 1.6 (115) petrol which seems like a really sweet well regarded engine with decent enough economy....just have to find a good un now!
Edited by lucklesspedestrian on 12/05/2009 at 20:08
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to knock some sense into my dense cranium. I walked away!
Im glad you walked away, just a pity someone else will buy it....
Thing is, it MAY have been a good un..... BUT why did they offer to spend a small fortune on replacing the pump, if there was nothing wrong with it?
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why did they offer to spend a small fortune on replacing the pump,
It wouldn't have cost them the full retail price, and they wanted to shift the car.
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DPF, DMF and CR: three acronymic reasons for never buying a modern diesel secondhand.
Even then, you don't know what the baboons have done to the clutch just putting it on the transporter.
Much safer to slip someone a few thousand euros and snatch it off the end of the production line in person.
Probably easiest on a Friday.
:o}
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It wouldn't have cost them the full retail price and they wanted to shift the car
Lud, Im in the trade.... I know none of the places Ive ever worked at, would spend money needlessly.....
...in fact some would sell the car with a known (expensive) problem, then get the work done under the used car warranty, when it let the customer down.
The margins are not good enough to throw money away, when you know another customer will be along later - hopefully not asking for a full history like the OP did!
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"Even then, you don't know what the baboons have done to the clutch just putting it on the transporter."
GB would likely respond to that in person, but i understand he`s just tucking into a banana.. ;-)
Edited by oilrag on 12/05/2009 at 21:08
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