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Reporting a smoky vehicle - L'escargot
I'd very much like to report a smoky car I followed (for several miles) this morning, but the VOSA "Smoky Vehicle Reporting Form" VOSA 551 appears to only apply to HGVs and PSVs. Am I correct in this assumption, and if so, is there any other means of reporting the car?

It appears to be taxed and insured, at least.
Reporting a smoky vehicle - Cliff Pope
A smoky car ? That should go in the"Things you don't see now" thread.

I haven't seen a smoky car since I fitted Cord oil control piston rings to my Triumph Mayflower in 1966!
Reporting a smoky vehicle - Steve Pearce
I had a Morris Minor that used a gallon of oil a week, now that was a smoky vehicle! I remember one pulling away from some lights in Worcester and when I looked in my mirror none of the cars behind me could be seen and indeed they didn't dare even start moving.
Reporting a smoky vehicle - Dwight Van Driver
White smoke- Head gasket ?

Black smoke - oil ?

Yes VOSA really only interested in Goods and PSV's and any reports goes onto their files for attention at Testing time or if many reports a visit to the firm.

Unless a Plod is there and then doubtful they would interested for areport to the their Station.

dvd
Reporting a smoky vehicle - Bagpuss
I got stopped by plod years ago in my Fiat Panda that was burning a serious amount of oil.

An engine rebuild was on the cards, but being pulled over gave me the necessary impetus to actually get the job done. Plod was very polite, described the car rather jokingly as an environmental hazard, and rather more seriously as being very unpleasant to drive behind, which it was.

I was told to get it fixed or next time it would be forcibly taken off the road. I didn't know whether plod actually had the power to do this, but spent a Saturday happily grinding valves in place as well as fitting new valve seals, piston rings and bearings. The joys of OHV engines.
Reporting a smoky vehicle - audi dave
Legislation applies to HGV's and PSV's only. Emissions for diesel cars is controlled with the MoT test.

I'm interested because I've got an argument with Ford at the moment that my C-Max CVT diesel auto smokes excessively. They say it's OK, I say not. If there's no legislation, presumably Ford can send me off from their workshop with the car smoking as much as it likes.

There must come a point though when the smoke is a safety hazard to other road users - in which case I'm sure the Police have powers to act

Some wag suggested I put a sticker on the back window saying "smokey - ring this number" (The Ford Customer Relations number)
Reporting a smoky vehicle - Mapmaker
MOT emissions test?
Reporting a smoky vehicle - mike hannon
The poor devil has enough aggravation already - can't pay his mortgage, bank stopped his credit cards, etc, etc. Now he's got mega engine trouble and somebody decided to send the Old Bill round to pick on him just because they forgot to press 'recirculate' on their aircon panel.
;-)
I get the same urge every time I'm behind a diesel car and get choked briefly when the driver floors the throttle. But it passes...

Edited by mike hannon on 28/11/2008 at 16:38

Reporting a smoky vehicle - tyro
as opposed to a 'Smokey vehicle' :-)

dictionary.reference.com/browse/smokey+bear&
Reporting a smoky vehicle - David Horn
Am I the only person here that takes great delight in saving up all the soot in the exhaust for a weekly blast up the motorway sliproad at night? The cloud of effluent that appears in the mirror is fantastic, particularly if it's gone all over someone that was tailgating me.
Reporting a smoky vehicle - Harleyman
Not so much "Things you don't see anymore" so much as "things you don't smell"..... the stink of cheap 20/50 being burned by a Marina, Moggy Minor, or their direct descendant the Nissan Micra.
Reporting a smoky vehicle - DP
Am I the only person here that takes great delight....


No, I do too. Most satisfying in my old Mondeo which chucked vast clouds of cack out of its tailpipes under full bore acceleration, particularly if it had been cooped up in town for a few days. The best thing however, was the complete absence of anything that could be remotely described as performance, which ensured that said tailgater was directly up my chuff as it did so, and therefore got a good dose of soot straight into their cabin air intake.

The PD engines are similarly dirty, but fast enough to ensure a decent air gap to the car behind. You need smoke AND gutless performance for maximum revenge on tailgaters.

Often I thought I'd out-dragged faster cars, but on further reflection I suspect they simply backed off for some fresh air. ;-)

Edited by DP on 01/12/2008 at 09:49

Reporting a smoky vehicle - gazza24v
i have a diesel landrover discovery 3tdi and it smookes everytime i change gear or i i floor it it smokes more but never been stopped by plod and it pass's mot everytime
Reporting a smoky vehicle - Enoughalready
Ah let it be! If it's that bad plod will sort it out at some stage.

People who want to spend the time and effort to report this sort of thing are petty and the sort of person I wouldn't want to be stuck with at a party!
Reporting a smoky vehicle - Dwight Van Driver
>>>i have a diesel landrover discovery 3tdi and it smookes everytime i change gear or i i floor it it smokes more but never been stopped by plod and it pass's mot everytime <<<

Follow H.J's recommendation at get your self some Miller Diesel Clean.

dvd
Reporting a smoky vehicle - L'escargot
In my original post I was referring to an A-reg (admittedly diesel) car which clearly had badly worn bores and/or piston rings. The smoke was oil smoke not over-rich diesel.

Edited by L'escargot on 01/12/2008 at 15:24

Reporting a smoky vehicle - GT

I don't know if there are more up-to-date posts on this topic. I followed a '51' plate Passat TDi yesterday which was billowing diesel smoke even under light acceleration round town. I was mildly surprised to see most people in this post adopting a laissez-faire attitude - in the four years which have passed, have attitudes (and the law) hardened? I suppose this car must have an MOT of sorts otherwise, with VNPR everywhere, the owner would surely have had his collar felt by now. He also had one brake light not working. The general condition of the car showed it was clearly a long-term stranger to a wet sponge and I dare say the engine is similarly estranged from anyone with overalls and a spanner. Is it worth reporting* - or am I just becoming Victor Meldrew's clone? (* to whom? Local plod? DVLA?)

Reporting a smoky vehicle - unthrottled

or am I just becoming Victor Meldrew's clone?

Yes. That car has some serious mechanical issues. Yours doesn't. Why rub it in with a fit of affected coughing and some sanctomonious coughing?

Reporting a smoky vehicle - Citizen Kane

This is thread is now very out of date in that there is now much greater public awareness of the very considerable health risks caused by vehicle particulate emissions, especially though not exclusively from diesel vehicles.

So, this is a serious topic, and one for which the replies above are no longer appropriate.

And yes, it is still happening in 2020. I saw a car pumping out black smoke just today, and tried to find out what I could do about it. Because I take the environment and people's health seriously, as many people do these days.

However, it seems that the law currently provides no powers to act in the case of light vans and cars. So nothing can be done apart from see whether the police will act, which I doubt very much in these days of overstretched resources and under funded services.

It's what Yorkshire folk would call "a poor do". In fact a very poor do indeed, that needs something doing about IMHO.

Reporting a smoky vehicle - galileo

Among the worst offenders round here are old (08 reg) double deck buses run by First bus. These are also a serious noise pollution problem, far worse than any LGV. Most of the noise appears to be due to the radiator fan, either the things are seriously underpowered or torque and gear ratios are unsuited to hilly districts as every driver seems to thrash them at high revs in every gear.

The same company's single deck buses are much newer and very quiet and emit no visible smoke.

Reporting a smoky vehicle - badbusdriver

I was thinking about this very same thing myself recently. On Tuesday I saw a town service bus which was emitting a lot of black smoke, the next day I saw the same bus still belching out black smoke. It was a Stagecoach (my ex employer) Optaire bus.

It must have been around 3 or 4 years before I left Stagecoach when we got about a dozen of them (new), so they must be 15 years old by now. Thing is, they were already getting pretty knackered when I left!.

Reporting a smoky vehicle - Metropolis.
Out of curiosity what was the service regime like on those? In house workshop assumably? The inner town and city buses must live very tough lives.
I noticed a lot of last gen London buses had Cummins engines which surprised me but they do have a great reputation in the USA.

Cant say smoke ever bothered me, a bit controversial now but I have in previous diesel vehicles enjoyed ‘rolling coal’ !
Reporting a smoky vehicle - badbusdriver
Out of curiosity what was the service regime like on those? In house workshop assumably? The inner town and city buses must live very tough lives. I noticed a lot of last gen London buses had Cummins engines which surprised me but they do have a great reputation in the USA. Cant say smoke ever bothered me, a bit controversial now but I have in previous diesel vehicles enjoyed ‘rolling coal’ !

Not very sure about the servicing regime I’m afraid, and yes, it was all done in house. Us drivers didn’t have much to do with the engineers. The only thing I do remember was regarding the tyres. This is mainly because I was so shocked to learn that the legal minimum tread depth for a bus (truck too presumably) was only 1mm!. But I was told Stagecoach policy was to replace them at 5mm.

I never liked the Optaire’s personally, partly because just they didn’t feel well built, but mainly I just didn’t feel the design of the bus was very suitable for town work. Having the door behind the front wheel meant that at a bus stop between two parked cars you couldn’t get the door close to the pavement. Meaning an old biddy might have to step right down on to the road before stepping back up on to the pavement. On a more traditional shape of bus in the same situation, easy enough to get the very front n/s corner, i.e, the door, over the kerb.

Reporting a smoky vehicle - Big John

I used to have a 1990 Passat Estate 1.6 td that would lay smoke on a motorway if you hit the go pedal - always passed an MOT though whilst I owned it up until 2001.

Reporting a smoky vehicle - blindspot

i once reported a double decker to the police. over several days i'd been stuck behind this bus belching out smoke. The copper was not having it. Those buses are serviced to the most stringent schedules. i can tell you. He just diidn't want know.