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2008 1.4T 98 Ron Petrol - Chris79
Hello Folks,

I've just been reading a motoring magazine in which it suggested that VW/Audi FSI/TFSI engines should be run on high octane fuel. It claims that using regular unleaded will cause running or starting problems. Anyone got any ideas on this. I always thought it was only high performance cars that benefited from this?.

2008 1.4T 98 Ron Petrol - Screwloose

Not only should - MUST. Using regular unleaded will result in a £4,600 bill for a new engine, almost the moment it's out of warranty; read the handbook "recommendation."

The starting problems arise from a lack of cold compression, mainly due to the top of the piston going missing.
2008 1.4T 98 Ron Petrol - Chris79
Thanks screwloose for that.

Have just been reading the handbook which states that at least 95 ron petrol must be used. I called my local audi dealer who said 90% of customers drive round on 95 ron, however he uses the 98 ron as it is beneficial to the injectors.

I would have thought the dealers would tell people this when they pick there cars up?.

Just goes to show you should read the handbook i guess!!.

2008 1.4T 98 Ron Petrol - jc2
It is a legal requirement that all modern engines must be able to run on 95 octane;a few engines will give improved performance on 98/100 but they must be able to be run on 95.
2008 1.4T 98 Ron Petrol - Screwloose
Chris

They are being very mealy-mouthed about it in the handbook and your dealer [suit?] was talking rubbish; [they've been covering this problem up for years.]

The RON number of the fuel only refers to it's knock resistance - nothing whatsoever to do with injectors - but a good way to tell you to use 98 without revealing the truth.

Like the over-stressed 1.4 100PS before it; on 95RON the FSi suffers from high-rev detonation under certain load conditions. Like cavitation on ship's propellors, this erodes the top of the pistons away - I've seen one that was nearly conical.

VAG simply built their engine too close to the knock-limit and normal UK fuel doesn't suit them. Yes; they CAN run on it - but only until about 60,000 miles, when the starting problems appear.

No direct-injection petrol engine has been a success since Mercedes dropped theirs. VAG were incredibly stupid not to see the catalogue of disaster that all other manufacturers had suffered with them and avoid it like the plague - unfortunately, they knew better....

So to HPI, IDE, SCi, GDi, etc. you can now add FSi. One to avoid.
2008 1.4T 98 Ron Petrol - Chris79
After posting this question on here I have been using the Super unleaded. I have not done any particularly accurate fuel consumption tests - but there is a noticable rise in fuel economy when running on the higher rated fuel, if i had to put a figure on it i would say about an extra 50 miles per tank. thus the extra cost is offset by this, and hopefully i'll still have an engine after 3 years!.