We have to replace my wifes 12 Year old Trusty Toyota Starlet as someone has reversed into the back and it has cuased £750 worth of damage. Buckled boot floor and damaged bumper. Even a local backstreet body shop wanted almost that much. It has done 80K and we owned for 9 years.It has never let us down at all and only ever cost us a service breaks and Tyres. Exahust/clutch etc all as new. What a car!
Trouble is want something equally as reliable
Now we have to replace any thoughts on the Honda Jazz or the Toyota Corolla.
Looking to spend from 4-5K Max.
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I am going to resist the temptation to say Yaris which would be the most obvious replacement for me, but I would consider a Corolla.
The 2 cars you are looking at will both be very reliable but I suspect the Jazz will be more expensive to maintain.
I think going for a car one size up from the starlet/yaris would provide a bit more comfort.
We have a Corolla and have been more pleased the older it gets - although I think I might be replacing a wheel bearing this week - but then the wife treats speed humps like painted marks on the road and does not slow down.
I hope this helps and let us know what you do.
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Yaris a bit small. The starlet was bought when only 2 of us. We now have a 3 year old and no doubt will be another one along soon so need to go for something a litte bigger. Thanks for the comments. Of to see 2 Jazz's this PM and maybe a corolla tomorrow.
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i bought a jazz because it does everything a car in the next class up does, but it's still only a supermini, so fits in my small garage.
the later models apparently ride better
SE spec pretty good - air con, sunroof, heated folding mirrors.
i'm getting an indicated 48 mpg in almost entirely urban driving
very pleased with it, one thing to note - it doesn't have Isofix points, probably due to the magic seats.
Edited by nick1975 on 16/11/2008 at 07:52
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I have a 53 plate Jazz and it has isofix, so your will have ? I thought all cars had to have them now ?
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..and the April 03 brochure shows them as standard.
Jazz was changing a little very shortly after original launch in the UK - the suspension was slightly changed and the cassette player was replaced by a CD. Maybe ISOFIX was added at the same time?
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Auto (CVT) Jazz (What's the plural?!) has a known problem if used for repeated short runs. Watch the service schedules - some expensive work about every third service, so perhaps best avoided, despite it's otherwise excellent and deserved reputation. My Father's had 2 - faultless and economical.
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Thanks - i stand corrected, mines an 06 so will have another look
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yep there they are!
does anyone use the maxi cosi easy fix base in the jazz
their website neither confirms nor denies if it works
Edited by nick1975 on 16/11/2008 at 18:12
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does anyone use the maxi cosi easy fix base in the jazz
I'm sure I've seen comments elsewhere saying it doesn't fit.
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Quick Google found this - no idea if this is same as what you're looking at, things have moved on since my kids were small!
"Unfortunately despite owning a car with an 'Iso-fix' system namely a Honda Jazz, the Maxi-Cosi 'Iso-fix base' would not fit the car."
www.dooyoo.co.uk/child-car-seat/maxi-cosi-cabriofi.../
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exactly the same.
thanks very much Bill Payer, that has been very helpful.
Edited by nick1975 on 16/11/2008 at 19:50
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I'd be intigued to know why it doesn't fit - I thought that was the whole point of ISOFIX?
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Seen a 2002 with 40K on the clock. One lady owner and full Honda Service History of 6 stamps. Really good condition. Small garage with about 20 other cars wants £3,999. Not sure if that too much or not. I must admit really A1 condition. Compare that a 2002 with 60 K on the the clock in another garage that want the same money and it was in awful condition. Cracked tailgate by lock. Scrathed wheel, dented bonnet need i say more. They had it 3 months and imagine it will be their in another at that price.
Regarding child seats we found not a lot of isofix seats fit perfectly so stuck with a standard Maxi Cosi in my car a C5 and currently have a Chico one in the starlet. Will check if it fits in the Jazz though.
I must admit the Jazz will go to our local Indie for Servicing so should not be too bad.
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Seen a 2002 with 40K on the clock.
That must be one of the first, with a cassette player rather than a CD. The early ones had even more bouncy suspension that the 2003 onwards versions, although there isn't a lot of difference.
One thing to check for is water in the spare wheel well - there are reports of the seals between the roof and the C posts letting water in.
The only tricky servicing is that checking valve clearances and changing the plugs is a bit awkward (therefore time consuming and costly) but they only need doing every 25000 miles. "Official" Honda scheduled servicing is quite expensive but the dealers will usually service older cars a lot cheaper.
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ISOFIX is a standard for the fixings only, not for car design and each seat needs to be tested on every car to get a compliance certificate.
We struggled to find one which fitted the Aygo and the A3 - we sacked the idea in the end.
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