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winter drawers on, clocks go back on sunday - zookeeper
this isnt a reminder for the initiated , but to the scores of motorists who pour out of the factories on a monday evening , post 5.00pm and run the gauntlet home without lights on ..you see them every year and apparently road accidents increase the last week in october
winter drawers on, clocks go back on sunday - Alanovich
Noticed this yesterday afternoon on the way home. The light was very poor, worsened by weather conditions, and yet still dozens of drivers saw fit not to turn their lights on. Then there are the 4x4s with side lights only, or the high intensity damn-I'm-cool-under-the-grille things only.
winter drawers on, clocks go back on sunday - Mapmaker
I don't change my underwear for the winter; are your winter drawers wool, zookeeper?
winter drawers on, clocks go back on sunday - Lud
Sew yourself into them until next May, MM? Fine old rural tradition.

Come mid-March or so it's probably quite hard to make out what the basic material is though.
winter drawers on, clocks go back on sunday - Mapmaker
I be on Oxford St in 10 minutes, walking. Rural?!
winter drawers on, clocks go back on sunday - zookeeper
i like to use a blend of polymer/ bubble wrap stuffed in my east german tank driver suite, then crack it off come the spring time
winter drawers on, clocks go back on sunday - JH
and as head of the family you get first shot at the bath water next spring.

JH
winter drawers on, clocks go back on sunday - wotspur
had one tonight,looked left,right and left again, turned right out of my road and straight into the path of a totally unlit car coming straight into my side wing, I just managed to stop 6 ft into the road,when I became of a black shadow to my right, she swerved around me, and the male passenger gave me every sign under the sun.
Now who would have been most culpable if there had been a collision
winter drawers on, clocks go back on sunday - Alby Back
A Doctor friend of mine once told me that while he was training he made a particular study of the functions of the eye. At one time he held ambitions of becoming an opthalmic surgeon.

The thing this thread has reminded me of and which has stuck in my mind for years is a scary correllation he told me about. Apparently those who would normally wear glasses or contact lenses for driving ( provided they wear them ) show little difference in their daytime visual skills over those who do not need glasses. In other words the corrective lenses work very well in daylight. However, these people often have noticeably poorer night vision than those who do not need glasses or contacts. Alarmingly, the vision ability difference between night and daytime driving is much more marked for that sector of the population.

As he pointed out, this throws up a whole new set of problems. In poor light, one group ( the spec free ) are still seeing quite well, the spectacle wearers however, are not.

Driving is still punctuated by misjudgements on a sight level playing field. Little wonder that darker nights bring more woe if there is a sudden widening of the variances in vision abilities. The fully sighted could well be assuming that they, or a given situation are entirely visible when in fact to some, it, or they, are not.
winter drawers on, clocks go back on sunday - Mapmaker
Absolutely true, Humph. I am perfectly legal to drive without glasses (reading a number plate at 25 yards in good light). When it is dull - or worse dark - driving without them is scary...
winter drawers on, clocks go back on sunday - cheddar
Absolutely true Humph. I am perfectly legal to drive without glasses (reading a number plate
at 25 yards in good light). When it is dull - or worse dark -
driving without them is scary...



HB, MM, IIRC it is called night miopia, I have it, on a bright clear day my eyes are virtually perfect though as the light level lowers they worsen hence I wear glasses for driving and hence I need prescription sunglasses because they, of course have the effect of lowering the light levels.
winter drawers on, clocks go back on sunday - cheddar
HB MM IIRC it is called night miopia >>



Upon re-reading HB's post I realise that you are talking about sumit else !
winter drawers on, clocks go back on sunday - Alby Back
Fairly worrying, when you think about it, that although one driver might be able to clearly see what is going on that a fellow user of the same stretch of road may not. A timely reminder never to assume I guess.
winter drawers on, clocks go back on sunday - L'escargot
Now who would have been most culpable if there had been a collision


wotspur, for the second time, "Stop looking on the black (dark!) side."
winter drawers on, clocks go back on sunday - boxsterboy
fleece lined for me!
it gets dark early now !! - wotspur
As most have noticed it is getting very dark ,very early,but there seems to be many drivers out there who feel they can't put their lights on until a certain time.

Last night I turned right out of my road,having done the normal checks - i was about 6ft out when I noticed a dark shadow bearing down on me from the right. She managed to swerve around me, and the passenger gesticulated in a less than friendly manner- I wonder how much further she drove before realising her lights weren't on.

Lud and fellow BR'S ,Who would have been more culpable in this situation ?
it gets dark early now !! - L'escargot
.......... Who would have been more culpable in this situation ?


Stop looking on the black (dark!) side.
it gets dark early now !! - John R @ home {P}
In my car, in the dark I know when the lights are off because I can't see my speedometer, simple- foolproof.

A friend at work says his wife's Astra's instrument lights are on all the time (with ignition on) which leads her, and him when he drives her car, to think the exterior lights are on. I guess other models follow this design (flaw?).

A lot of driving is done in an urban environment where the streets are light and car headlights are not needed to actually see with. The need for them to be on is to be seen. It's like a ship on the sea at night does not have it's running lights on so they can see where they are going, they are for other vessels to see them...

Dark or not, another 'rule' I follow is "If I need my wipers, I need my lights ON".

Regards,
John R @ Home
it gets dark early now !! - vtecfan
fortunately in Poland the law says you must have your lights on even when it's not dark. Simple enough - lights are always on, so you don't have to worry about others when it's dark.
it gets dark early now !! - cheddar
lights are always on so you don't have to worry about others when it's dark.


Dangerous for motorcyclists, daytime lights are a differential for motorcycles and helps other road users see them, if all vehicles have daytime lights that differential is negated.
it gets dark early now !! - Harleyman
In my car in the dark I know when the lights are off because I
can't see my speedometer simple- foolproof.

The need for them to
be on is to be seen. >>

Dark or not another 'rule' I follow is "If I need my wipers I need
my lights ON".


Wholeheartedly agree with all of this. Years ago my old (and much-hated) Citroen BX had a permanently illuminated dashboard, and it was easy to make that very mistake. I know there's an "idiot light" on most cars to tell you the lights are on, but IMO most drivers don't have a clue what the panel lights mean anyway.
it gets dark early now !! - Paul G1pdc
but IMO most drivers don't have a clue what the panel lights mean anyway.
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here here.....
fog lights.....
1 in 10 cars have front fog lights, and side lights on..whats going on.....
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its that time of year, some have no lights, some are lit up like x-mas trees, and theres the wallys with blown bulbs...that only get the duff bulbs changed at MOT time.
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I run and cycle to work and use more lights than I care to mention,,,even running i use a hi-viz and head torch...if i get taken out I don't want any rubbish about not being able to see me....
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