I'm confused, what's the story got to do with police bashing?
I'm also disapointed, I was looking forward to a nice piece of police bashing on a Friday afternoon :)
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Actually think this is a perfect uplifting Friday afternoon story ;-)
Have complete admiration for the Policeman being able to deliver a baby like that in difficult circumstances, with no training or experience.
Certainly a refreshing change from the doom and gloom on the news at the moment!
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FT,
How would you know if someone deserved anything, if you are not in posession of the facts?
Perhaps you rely on the Press?
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Don't be tiresome, Westie. Perhaps you've heard of PC David Mayes. He got his name in the press, too. Did he deserve something, or not?
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Consider that a rhetorical question.
Edited by FotheringtonThomas on 10/10/2008 at 13:57
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Wonder if the 'stern word' was about his insurance...........;)
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Don't be tiresome Westie. Perhaps you've heard of PC David Mayes.
see.. you're mellowing now FT...:-)
never heard of Mayes, but will google it to see what comes up.
If he did wrong and got caught then good, sullies the reputation of everyone else. Not saying there aren't bad apples, happens everywhere you have the human element.
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> never heard of Mayes but will google it to see what comes up.
Found him...I remember now, the idiot who was photographed 'no hands' on a speed camera. Don't know what the point is you're making though.
Over the years i've known of cops be done for murder, burglary, wife beating, drug dealing, you name it, someone will have done it...that's what you get when you employ humans
the other side of the coin though is an incredibly robust complaints sytem, backed up by a most firm discipline system...and...a general intolerance within of the bad apple. Percentages wise the bad 'uns are very few.
I've never met yet a human being that is perfect.
Edited by Webmaster on 12/10/2008 at 01:03
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This thread was titled as police bashing
Posts link to story which is actually a good bit of PR for the police
Ends up getting dragged down into police bashing anyway.
Funny world.
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westpig observed:
Over the years i've known of cops be done for murder, burglary, wife beating, drug dealing >>
That's good, because to that extent at least, the Police Force (Sevice? Agency? Partnership?) reflects the diversity of the community it polices.
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Actually the story was mostly spin. The plod didn't deliver the baby, it delivered itself. All he did was call for an ambulance.
Oh yes, Mayes. Jolly fellow, if a bit imprudent.
Edited by Lud on 10/10/2008 at 15:20
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In the press recently there has been a report about a PC who had a bit of "nooky" a few times whilst on duty. He has appeared in court for dereliction of duty, and the judge intimated that he was likely to get twelve months when he returns for sentencing.
Now, I don't approve of him getting paid when doing things like this, but to give him a prison sentence is way over the top. The guy has lost his job, and presumably his pension rights, so isn't that sufficient punishment, as well as the adverse publicity?
When scroats (sp?) get less than this for serious crimes, it seems we have lost our values somewhere.
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It's misconduct in a public office, which is more serious than dereliction.
Included in court were claims that this officer pressurised a domestic violence victim for sex and also failed to go to jobs whilst having sex with other women that he had met through the job (in the sense that they were victims of crime or complainants, rather than colleagues.)
Sounds like a straight up abuse of process/position to me, and clearly also to the convicting court. There will also be an element of making an example in the sentence.
But yes, one takes the point that scrotes don't get proper sentences.
And in response to the original post, good news for once, and well dones all round.
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There's been a bit of this lately.
Is the randy copper replacing the randy vicar in the tabloid imagination, the latter having become too commonplace to be interesting?
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It's probably the thing that the papers pick up on now, regardless of whether it's more prevalent or not.
It used to be vicars, as you say.
We've not had a decent (as in juicy) political scandal recently - you're surely not telling me that they've all started to behave....
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How would you know if someone deserved anything if you are not in posession of the facts? Perhaps you rely on the Press?
At least FT isn't silly enough to rely on a database which is only designed to be 95% accurate, but in which some people have mindlessly placed their complete trust, and don't bother checking the reliability of the single-source information they are using.
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The mum in the story looks pretty tidy, considering she's just given birth. My missus looked like Wilfred Brambell for about three months afterwards, poor thing.
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The mum in the story looks pretty tidy considering she's just given birth. My missus looked like Wilfred Brambell for about three months afterwards poor thing.
may i presume you haven't shared this observation with your dear wife?...:-)
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> At least FT isn't silly enough to rely on a database which is only designedto be 95% accurate but in which some people have mindlessly placed their complete trust and don't bother checking the reliability of the single-source information they are using.
it is nothing to do with silliness NW...It's making do with what you've got. making the sytem work, trying to deliver what you can, knowing the flaws but getting on with it... etc, etc..you know tax payers money and all that.
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it is nothing to do with silliness NW...It's making do with what you've got. making the sytem work trying to deliver what you can knowing the flaws but getting on with it... etc etc..you know tax payers money and all that.
Indeed. So use the database as an indicator that there might be an insurance problem, and issue a producer ... rather than taking it as gospel and impounding the car. It'll save time for you and your colleagues, giving us all better value-for-money as well as avoiding the punishment of the law-abiding.
Maybe silliness is the wrong word for police who seem unconcerned about using dodgy data as grounds for punishment of the law-abiding, but I'll not provoke you by using some of the terms which do come to mind.
Edited by NowWheels on 10/10/2008 at 23:55
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That's enough - carry on arguing in the other insurance seizure thread by all means but don't mission creep it into other threads. It can get very boring !
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