I did my initial driver training whilst in the forces.
The first ever car I drove was an (1970's) Escourt Estate.
Upon learning the core basics and spending many ours driving around a disused airbase near Beverley East Yorkshire - I was then put in to a Bedford 7.5t and let loose on the roads! I took my dual car & HGV 3 test in this vehicle.
I then progressed from there to HGV 2 evetually on to HGV 1 vehicles taking a dual HGV 1 + 2 test.
I have also taken & passed my motorcycle, PSV and tracked vehicles licences but you don't get many employment opportunities for tank drivers in civvy street do you?!
Edited by Tron on 05/09/2008 at 12:05
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Mk1 Ford Escort 1300 XL
A lovely lovely little car
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A red 1995 K11 Nissan Micra... Also passed in that.
My new Mazda 2 is the first none Nissan car I've regularly driven.
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A Hillman Imp in 1970.
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Father's Austin A55 Cambridge; driving school FWD Triumph 1300 - that was a nice little motor, too. I picked the driving school because it had the nicest car - all the others were Morris Minors and the like. I guess I was a badge snob even then...
Edited by mike hannon on 05/09/2008 at 12:12
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Datsun 120Y - passed test in it on April 1st 1974
MPZ
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wolsely 6/90 and bsa 250. jag.
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A very brown Dolomite 1300, the only car I've ever seen with a carpeted gear lever gaiter ( also in brown).
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First lesson (on my 17th birthday) - a mark 1 Nissan Micra. It was so nasty I changed schools immediately to one which had a brand new mark 2 Mitsubishi Colt, in the days when a Colt was Escort/Golf sized rather than a supermini. Went on to pass my test in that, but also learnt in my Mum's Mark 3 Escort 1.6 Ghia. I remember thinking that Escort was the dog's danglers.
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A driving school Ford Anglia and father's Humber Hawk.
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Car - Ford Anglia 105E
HGV3 - Bedford RL but took test in a Bedford MK
HGV1 - Bedford TK
PSV1 - Leyland PD3 (ex Liecester Corpration and a lovely old bus).
Not a lot of power steering on any of them, and a fair bit of double declutching required!
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mother's Ford Fiesta 1.3 Ghia 'OTK933S' metallic bronze/brown, which thinking back on it was quite generous of her as it was brand new.
did have a couple of go's in father's beetle 'DWB---H', but that had an interestingly vague gear change and i frightened him one morning when i skimmed a kerb through a small Devon town and he bottled it after that.
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The favoured vehicle of the driving school from which I received instruction was the Nissan Micra Mark I.
After passing my test I continued learning to drive in various Ford Fiestas (Mark 2 and 3).
I'm not quite sure at what point the learning process finished, and I could say that I knew how to drive, but I like to think that after 19 years of driving since passing my test, I've got there - though my wife doesn't always appear to be convinced.
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A P Reg Nissan Micra 1.0 L 16 Valve - I tried to drive one again when i had to borrow one about 5 years later due to my Cavalier breaking down and i could barley fit in it, as i grew a bit since i learnt to drive when i was 17 LOL!
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1956 Ford 100E Anglia. 3-speed gearbox with no synchromesh on Ist gear. The car wouldn't go below 20 mph in 2nd so dropping below that speed meant you had to try to get into 1st on the move the best way you could ~ and the instructor didn't teach me how to double de-clutch. I failed my first test (after 12 lessons) for going across crossroads (very few stop lines in those days) too fast in 2nd when I really should have been in 1st. Changed to a 4-speed Morris Minor with a different instructor and passed with no problem after only another handful of lessons.
Edited by L'escargot on 05/09/2008 at 13:21
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Minis, about 1961-2 when they were new and trendy. I remember the school instructor illustrating clutchless gear-changing by listening to the engine to gauge the revs. After passing the test, wife's (then fiancée's) MiniVan took the brunt.
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My first lessons were with a driving instructor neighbour in my parent's Volvo 240 estate. H-reg, big red one, absolutely great! I also had "proper" lessons in a Saxo, which I stalled a lot after being in the Volvo.
I have made a promise to myself that within a couple of years I will buy myself an old 240 estate
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A Panda!! Horrific little go kart but at the same time great fun! Had a few lessons too, in instructors L reg Nissan Sunny which is still the dullest vehicle I've ever seen or been in
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I learnt to drive on a lovely 1960s Massey Ferguson tractor, which taught me how to double-declutch.
I learnt car driving about five years later in a BSM Mini Metro, which felt very weedy by comparison.
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Morris Marina 1.3 !!
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Driving school car was a Mk1 Fiesta which felt like a Rolls Royce compared to my Dad's Maxi HL in which I drove my first tentative miles and thereafter practiced in.
I remember my first driving lesson in the Fiesta being surprised by the precision of the gearchange, the lightness of the steering and the fact that you could feel the biting point of the clutch.
The Maxi was truly awful to drive but at least gave me the opportunity to learn the art of double declutching at 17 as the synchromesh on 2nd gear had failed. Hey it was 18 months old, these things don't last forever, was more or less the response from the BL "Service" Department.
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Age 13......father's Rover 105S, gently moving it forwards and backwards in garage; small grey tractor in nearby field
age 14......builders' diesel dump truck [starting handle carelessly left around at w/e
age 15.....friend's father's Triumph 2000 - when parents were out
age 16......combine harvester in deserted agricultural depot...
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Vauxhall Viva, lovely short stubby gear lever with a rifle bolt action, nothing like my current Picasso's which is connected to the gearbox with what feels like 6 miles of cable, several rods and countless rubber bushes !
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Driving instructor's car was a brand new 1990 Toyota Corolla "Executive" - lovely car to drive compared with the A reg Fiesta 950 Pop Plus I practiced in.
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Passed my test [second attempt] in November 1969.
Took lessons and passed in my dad's 1962 Morris Minor 1000.
Good grief-39 years ago.
screwtape
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Escort + F.I.L's A55 I took the test in the Escort and passed 1st time even though I forgot to do the hand signals and when I did the emergency stop I slammed the anchors on *and* the handbrake - the examiner almost went through the windscreen (no seatbelts then) and someone came running out of their house and screamed "I'm fed up with you people coming down here making all that screeching noise, I'm going to call the Police next time ... to which he calmly replied " I am the Police marm"
Dog.
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A white Triumph Herald belonging to the British School of Motoring. First lesson was on my 17th birthday. Mum & Dad paid for 15 lessons - I think. Passed after 6 weeks.
Edited by Dulwich Estate on 05/09/2008 at 16:52
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1968 Morris Oxford. Blue leather bench seats, no synchromesh on first, hand signals.
passed first time.
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Ford Escort non-turbo diesel, no power steering, evil gearchange. Hated that car.
Passed in a brand-new Corsa (one of the first ones out). Hated that car as well -- no feel to the steering and clunky gears.
Moving over to a Nissan Sunny seemed like luxury next to those two jalopies.
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1989 Nissan Sunny, one of the first "Nissans", after the big name change. Horrid to look at but even then you could tell Japanese cars were going to rule the world.
My instructor was great fun, which definitely helped me pass the test first time. I'll always remember his idle threat as we drove to the test centre nr Croydon. "You hear that knocking in the boot? That's a bat. I don't tolerate failures."
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I learnt in a variety of different vehicles as my dad was a motor trader. The first car I took on the road on my birthday was a K reg Vauxhall Viva with my Dad. My instuctor had a Chevette then traded it in for a Nova which was just out at the time.
We switched the 'L' plates between several vehicles including an Austin 1300, my sister's Mini, mum's Chevette and our VW bus. I eventually took my second, succesful, test in my Grandad's Fiat 127.
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Dad's Volvo 240. Hit a metal lamp post with it while over compensating going around a corner. The lamp post got bent a bit but the Volvo was fine. Dad got a bit excited about it for a while.
That was 1975/76. I last checked that lamp post about five years ago and it still has a small dent in it !
;-)
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Had lessons to pass the test in a BSM Metro (think had 12-13 lessons).
Weekends and evenings Dad taught me to drive in mums B reg Polo (which became my car after passing the test as Dad was forced into a company car).
As soon as I passed the test Dad took me out in the company car (MG Montego) to get feel of something with bit more power, and what had become Mums Citroen BX diesel.
Swapping between the BX and the Polo was a good learning curve- Polos brakes were appalling on all MK IIs due to conversion from left to right hand drive, where as the brakes on the BX were more like a microswitch- off or on. Is certainly the only car where managed to get smoke coming from the tyres when had to do a sudden stop- and only made that mistake once.
Am not sure if would have passed the test without Dads help- as he noticed several faults my instructor didn't pick up on such as riding the clutch whilst reversing, and looking at the gear stick occasionally. Dad also spent much more time on positioning the car- but nearly came to blows on many occasions during the first few outings.
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A red J reg Micra
HGV : a red J reg Volvo FL6
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Off-road in an early Mini and a Citroen Dyane. On-road in a Morris Minor 1000.
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Car: Nissan Micra (bubble shaped one, in both 1.0l and 1.4l versions)
Minibus: 17 seat, 22ft Ford Transit (passed the test in DN03CRZ, I didn't want CTX as it had a large dent in the side door and I felt that it wouldn't look appropriate for the test!)
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What did I learn to drive in? Jeans, t-shirt and banana hammock.
I had various instructor cars as my doddery old instructors kept dying (Probably Harold Shipman's work as I was learning in Hyde back in the 80s where I went to 6th Form College). I seem to remember a Metro, Fiesta and two Nissan Cherries. The old man had a 7-seater 504 in which I clocked up thousands of miles during the 6 months I held a provisional licence. Passed on April Fool's day at the second attempt in a Nissan Cherry. Can't remember what car I failed in.
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Mk1 Golf.
Passed 2nd time I have to admit.
It started my admiration of the VW brand and was probably in the day when not all cars were as reliable as a Volkswagen.
As we know that is no longer true and I wouldn't go anywhere near a VW dealer today.
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A Cherry seems an appropriate car to, er get your wings in
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Self taught on a Renault 4 van, a Ford 5000 tractor (and trailer) and a Bedford RL - 4wd, petrol, 3 tonner, ex-army before being used on a construction site. The only actual lessons I had were on a Morris Minor, with an instructor who always braked before I did - he couldn't help it.
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A Maxi and some early 70s Jap car...
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In 1972, Triumph herald convertible, only had the one lesson with the roof down Glasgow wasn't warm enough the rest of the time.
Practised in Dad's viva
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Covered about 10000 miles in a diesel transit at my work place at 17, accompanied by regular driver who had broke his leg, lucky for me. Passed test in Mini.
Passed truck test in Leyland Mastiff artic, thanks to Jimmy Morrison, a proper old time hgv instructor who taught his pupils to drive properly, not just to pass a test, what happened since then i have no idea...sorry Jimmy..;)
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First few lessons were in a Y reg Mk3 Escort GL. Thankfully it had a towbar as it was hit from behind by a mini on my first lesson.
Graduated to brand new Nova Antibes, which had (wait for it)......a rev counter! Passed my test in that car despite it's truly dreadful gearshift.
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That the one that became a Vauxhall Chevette Cheddar ? Once drove a Chevette Ecosse 2.3 round Snetterton. Great fun.
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Ohhhh ! I want one of those now....
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Colt (not marketed as Mitsubishi at that time) Lancer 1983
S6 1SW
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First six lessons in a Mini belonging to a driving school with a private road near Leeds Bradford Airport. Mini was OK but instructor had a short fuse so moved to Ted Rhodes' Datsun 1200 and passed test at first attempt after a further 12 lessons.
Edited by Bromptonaut on 05/09/2008 at 22:29
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Morris 1000
Mini (Driving School)
Morris Marina 1.3 de-lux (family friend) - passed my test in that.
Volvo 66 (Mum's car)
Renault 16 - Uncle's car
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Ohhhh ! I want one of those now....
Why does no-one run one of those "subscription buys you points to drive the cars" schemes for interesting, rather than "exotic", cars?
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My dad's Toyota Starlet Mk1 and a horrid driving school Talbot Samba - back in 1983. The Samba had a very heavy clutch from what I remember.
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Self taught in my own Reliant Regal, and passed my test in a gas fueled Mk2 Escort.
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Offroad = International B275. Onroad = Hillman Imp in 1974.
Steve.
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That the one that became a Vauxhall Chevette Cheddar ?>>
Yep though the Kadette was better looking.
Also drove my mum's Austin 1300.
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Blue Metro,good little car easy to drive with great visibility
First car I took out on my own was Dad's BX-can still remember what was playing on the radio. Whatever happened to Beats International? Think Sinead O'Connor is still about
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Dad's Mk 1 Ford Zephyr with 3 speed column change - then had about 4 lessons and passed test (1959-yipes!) on BSM Minor.
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Was there a hard core Kadett though ?
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A mk5 1.25 Fiesta
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1994 Rover 414SLi (learnt and passed in it). Lovely gear change, and quite useful to learn in a slightly bigger car (though I've owned small Japanese buzz-boxes ever since passing!).
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Was there a hard core Kadett though ?
The Chevette Ecosse was pretty hard. It would have suited blue face paint and a cry of "Freedom!!!!"
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My Dad's morris Oxford, in 1959. When I'd passed my test I 'progressed'(!) to a 1947 Morris Ten series E, which I drove for three years until it broke in half whilst being jacked up for some welding..
Cars from then to the present were: Morris Minivan, Frog-eye Sprite, Ford Cortina Mk.II, Renault 4, Renault 12 Estate, Peugeot 305 Estate, another of the same,
Honda Civic Aerodeck, Honda CRX.
P.
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at 15/16 a friends Morris Minor, just around fields of Dursley.
Then at 17, a local driving school, with a crazy Aussie in a Datsun Sunny, if I recall correctly.
Turned right at a roundabout, went up and down the kerb twice, did about 8 miles in total, at the end he said I think we'll apply for your test,duly passed 12 lessons later, in Weybridge with the rotweiller
Edited by Pugugly on 06/09/2008 at 18:22
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I started driving lessons in a MkI Escort 100 a lovely car to learn in. Unfortunately the insructor was a pink fluffy dice so I gave up for a few years and then started again with a different driving instructor. He was al ovely patient man and the car, an MG Metro. Great fun - when it ran properly which only happened once, the day I took my test - I passed 1st time.
Where are all the old MG Metros now? I haven't seen one for a long time.
Edited by Webmaster on 07/09/2008 at 01:10
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Learn to drive 'on' in my case - agricultural tractors starting from age 11 in fields and 16 on the road.
Grey Fergie, Allis Chalmers, Fordson Major, Nuffield Universal - all great pieces of kit in their own way - apart from the Allis Chalmers which was a top heavy death trap.
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Very amusing thread!
If I remember right, the car I took my road test and previous instruction in was some sort of late Seventies/early Eighties Chevrolet Impala, 2-door sedan (this was spring of 1981). Once I had my licence, I went out and bought a 1976 Plymouth Fury four-door for $1200. That was one SOLID car--went 140,000 miles before rust brought it to an untimely end in 1989. MOPAR's 318 V8 was an extremely reliable engine for this car--in fact, my current aircraft carrier on wheels has the same 318. Floor it!!!!!!!!!
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My mum's Morris 1100, in 1965/6.
Re the Kadett sub-thread - for some doubtless excellent reason GM in the late 70s / early 80s elected to sell Opels in competition to their almost identical Vauxhall counterparts - the front of the cars was the main difference. The first Kadett was the Chevette, as mentioned above, but the next Kadett was the Mark 1 Astra. Then there was the Ascona / Cavalier; Manta / Cavalier coupe; Rekord / Carlton; Monza / Royale coupe - and I can't remember what the Opel version of the Royale saloon was - Diplomat possibly?
OK, I'm a nerd. Enough.
Edit - PS - were they both called Senator?
Edited by Avant on 06/09/2008 at 22:46
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The Vauxhalls had ancient engines as well (Chevette v. Kadett)
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Austin 1100 with worn synchromesh in 1970 - first lesson included double declutching. After passing the test I was let loose (occasionally) in Dad's Cresta PA Hydramatic and Bedford CA van with 3 speed column change - both interesting in their own way.
I think the big Opel saloon was the Senator and the Vauxhall equivalent was the Royale - didn't they use the same name for the saloon and coupe at that time? Vauxhall adopted the Senator name later.
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Don't know why, but the thing I remember about the Chevette was the fuel filler flap had a plastic hinge.
Think it was the first time we had seen plastic used in such an application.
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1983, 15 years old, Escort van in my mates dads coal yard,
1984, 16, Fiesta van, helped a contractor off our site out by driving the van up to Shrewsbury,he was in a wagon with a blinkin great digger on the back, only stalled the van twice!, thank the lord he drove back, I was a wreck by then.
1988-9 driving lessons in a bog standard Metro, clutch packed up on it just before my test so had to take the test in a MG Metro Turbo, blow me but I passed first time, my instructor wouldnt let me drive it home though, dont blame him really :-)
CBG
Edited by corblimeyguvnar on 06/09/2008 at 23:56
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Learnt and passed in 1946 Hillman Minx.
In 1964
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In the drive at home, aged 8, sat on a cushion, Mum's Morris 8 convertible.
In Durham, aged 17, a green Morris 1100, passively smoking the instructor's chain of Capstan full strength ciggies.
In York, aged 22, an ancient Bedford Duple coach.
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6 lessons in a Mini 850.
First car; a 1933 Ford Tudor saloon 14.9 HP. (Built in Canada, shipped to UK in CKD form) Room for a party in the back, cost me £49; sold 1 year later for £25. Total repairs; 7/6d for a starter switch.
First "modern" car; an Austin A35. Black - later BRG with yellow wheels. Oh - foolish youth!
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My mother's Triuph Herald convertible, Dad's Rover 2000 TC [wonderful luxo-barge of its day], and you know what - I have absolutely no recollection of my 3 driving lessons at all!
Passed 6 weeks after my 17th. No chance of that today!
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Had had a few goes in Dads cars over the years on private land, but had my proper lessons in a Mk1 Nissan Micra 1.0.
Memorably, at the start of my first lesson, my instructor told me "I am going to teach you how to pass the driving test, but I am not necessarily going to teach you how to drive."
Thought the Micra was awful, controls were too light IMO. At the time I was going for occasional drives in Dads Mk2 Cavalier 1.8, which was a heavy car in comparison.
I was car mad and passing my test first time was far and away more important to me than passing exams at school.
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Surprised that only one other person passed in a Mk1 Corsa, given that BSM and other driving schools seemed all to have these. I too hated it; what I can't believe is that three friends had these for their first car (and one of them still has theirs)! Hateful little things. Also learnt to drive in my parents' Golk Mk3 1.9 diesel - a lot nicer, though heavy-feeling and with little steering or braking feedback. Subsequently written off when a Galaxy went into the side of me six months later!
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Triumph Toledo.
not seen one for a while.....
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I took my test in January 1990.
Dad's car - C reg Escort 1.3L.
Driving school cars - E reg Nissan Micra then brand new G reg Nissan Micra (37 miles on the clock!)
On the day of my 17th birthday, my dad took me to an empty industrial estate in Letchworth and taught me how to make his car go, stop and turn.
The day after, same industrial estate for half an hour then out around the town once and 2 miles home.
On the third day he had arranged to drop a work colleague at Heathrow airport. I drove the 20-odd miles to the guy's house near Dunstable, dad did the motorway bit from there to Heathrow and back as far as the A414 near St Albans - then I drove up the old A1 route (Hatfield - Knebworth - Stevenage - Letchworth) which took about an hour but felt like an eternity.
My first driving school lesson was on the fourth day. The instructor sat me in the passenger seat and started driving whilst he asked me if I'd had any experience. 200 yards later he stopped and we swapped seats, and at the end of the 1 hour lesson he gave me the test application form and told me there was a twelve week waiting list, I should send it off straight away because I'd be ready by then.
He was right, I passed first time aged 17 years 11 weeks.
And yes, I did everything over the next few years that you'd expect, apart from bend a car so badly it couldn't still be driven. Still haven't in fact. (Touch wood)
Edited by Webmaster on 21/09/2008 at 13:37
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Oh yes, up until two years ago I still regularly saw the E-reg Micra about. Hardy little things. :-)
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Initially Fordson Major tractor on Uncle's farm. Could only just get the clutch disengaged. { I was only 8 yrs old then }. Mid-fifties, learnt roadwork in a Jowett Bradford. Crash box, with gear positions backwards [ 1st right and back ]. Even now, I automatically double-declutch when driving manual cars.
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My first driving experiance was in a 1966 Renault 16 with the column gear change, this was replaced by a Citroen DS again with the same gearchange arrangement I started driving when I was 11 so this would be in the late 1960's and early 1970's
I took my test two weeks after my 17th birthday in a Renault 12TS bright yellow in colour at the time it really stood out against the drab colours offered up by British Leyland and others.
First car of my own a 1973 Renault 4 again with the gear change out of the dash board.
The local driving school ran gutless 1.0 L escorts at the time so the Renault 12 was my preffered car to drive.
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A 1971 Volvo 144 saloon. Coleman's mustard colour with a black vinyl roof. Stainless steel exhaust gave it a lovely growl.
Handbrake was on the RHS of the drivers seat, gave me a scare on test. When I pulled up and just as the car stopped I was in the habit of putting it out of gear with my left hand and putting the handbrake on with my right, no hands on the wheel. On pulling up to do the 3 point turn on test the front left wheel hit some snow in the gutter and I have this picture of the steering wheel spinning, probably only went 20-30 degrees, don't think the examiner noticed as I passed
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Hi ijws15 - The Volvo you describe exactly matches one my father had from new. PVV221J ?
If it is the same car it's still around if you do a search on the number. At the time he sold it ( around '73 ) it was in Edinburgh.
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Just remembered another piece of trivia about the yellow 144. When Dad had it it didn't have the vinyl roof. He traded it in at the the then main Edinburgh Volvo dealer ( Buchanans ? ) who were located near Balgreen. The car was in their compound awaiting sale when the place was broken into and some cars were damaged with paint or something being thrown around. The paint on the roof of the Volvo was affected and the garage manager decided that the cheapest fix was to put a black vinyl roof on.
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My mum's Mini 1275 GT. Passed and bought a Mini 850 which I ended up liking more as it taught me the necessity of maintaining momentum to make decent progress.
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I learnt to drive in a 'G' reg poverty spec Micra 1.0 - that was the driving school's car (Rimmer's of Southport - now sadly no longer going). I practised in my dad's 'C' reg Nissan Sunny which, as I recall, was not met with great enthusiasm by the man himself. Still, I managed to pass my test first time after only seventeen lessons so both him and my instructor must have been doing something right!
I passed my PCV test in a 'T' (ie 1979) reg Leyland Leopard which had a manual gearbox and no power steering. Now, that was challenging!
Cheers.
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Learning in a 1.3 CDTI Corsa - no idea what reg it is, but it's a new shape.
Luke.
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Triumph Herald 1963 - what a turning circle, but didn't tyres (and clutch, quietly!) squeal on full lock
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Driving School had Fiesta (this was in late 1981) which was fine. Day of the driving test Fiesta broke down so they sent me out in a RWD Escort and I had 15 minutes extra to practice. Fortunately I passed first time.
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What a lot of "youngsters" you are!!! I started to drive in 1956 when I bought a wreck of a 1949 Standard 12 saloon during the Suez political crisis, when holders of Provisional Driving Licences were lawfully authorised to drive without an accompanying qualified driver.
The Coventry bombsite garage where I bought the car ( mind you - most of Coventry was a bombsite then, since very little rebuilding had occurred since the blitz) dumped it outside my RAF Married Quarter front door. I then set off that evening round the Warwickshire country lanes and somehow driving just came naturally (I tell myself)
However, since I was then in an RAF post requiring the holder to drive a car ( and I quote "Cars up to a maximum speed of 60 mph", I was attached to a three week course at RAF Weeton (near Blackpool) where under the tutoring of a civilian instructor, two "pupils" shared the use of a Standard Vanguard saloon, complete with a three forward gears steering column gear change. It was quite a powerful beast for its day!
After "qualifying" on a nearby airfield to drive on public roads, tuition was from 08.30 to 12.30 and 1.30 to 4.30 pm five days a week for some 2.5 weeks. I saw more of Blackpool than I care to remember - up and down the Garstang Road was my favourite hate, I remember!
I can hear you saying "how could anyone fail to pass the test " but some did! Fortunately, I didn't.
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