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I'll bet there are lots of people here who would love to know how locked wheel clamps are removed intact.
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call a local towing garage , get them to remove your car , cut off the lock in their yard . They can keep the clamps , anything up to £100 is reasonable - cheaper than a £575 demand for a very spurious ticket .
And yes , this actually happened .
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Bearing in mind that you may have briefly broken the law, by having SORNd vehicles on a public road however briefly, why not just thank your lucky stars and keep quiet about it? What are you gaining by all this telephoning around, telling people where their clamps are etc? If I was you I would just keep quiet about it and hope that the whole thing blows over. Why are you trying to help these awful people anyway? Some wheel clamps they have lost or can't find are 2 that they can't put on some other unfortunate's vehicle! I see your full stop key is still mafunctioning too!
Edited by Armitage Shanks {p} on 31/07/2008 at 16:27
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?NCP Services? 300 strong team working for DVLA runs a fleet of more than 80 vehicles???. use high-tech vans, equipped with Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR) technology - which can instantly spot any vehicle using the roads without up to date tax.
Bethan Beasley of DVLA's wheel clamping unit, said: "The people whose vehicles have been removed or clamped are hard-core offenders; not people who have just missed renewing their tax by a few days, but people who have shown no intention of taxing their vehicles.?
At least the thread prompted me to search further - didn?t realise it was such an industry until I looked it up.
www.ncpservices.co.uk/b9c4422c52da4c43ac74d84f4b5b...m
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dont get me wrong im not hepling them nor am i impeding them im just trying to make sure i dont get in trouble for someone elses mis guided intervension. i think ive said in previous posts im not disputing that the clamps were probably on my cars because im thinking the clampers will have photo evidence I am however disputing that they were not on my cars when i returned and neither was their any information to suggest my cars had been clamped if i get fined for having my cars outside my house without tax then so be it ill just have to choke on the credit card. im just a little bit angry that one vehicle (1984 mercedes g wagon )has been sorned on time and on the dot for four years now because i was doing it up to sell it and my rover 418 deisel has been on sorn for eighteen months all i wasdoing was obtaining aceess down the side of my house reason why their on sorn i have a motorbike for transport as its cheeper to run tax and insure and my wife has her car fully insured and taxed, and the rover is well worth probably the amount of the fine. im just wondering were i stand with these clamps iv askedthem to be collected but still no sign am i reponsable for them ? i certainly dont want them in my garage let alone my path .
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If you're that unhappy - take them to your local LVLO or Police Station as Found Property. You will get a receipt. Make sure that their condition is documented.
Time will tell whether you get a ticket or tickets. Sadly you will be reported in the facts of the situation. I.e. cars on a publicly maintainable road with no Tax and in breach of SORN. The clamping of your vehicles will have been authorized by DVLA when they were seen, tickets will have been written, the car and tickets will have been photographed in situ. DVLA won't miss an opportunity to clamp and book cars and will be reluctant to let go - they're not sympathetic. Cars on the road no tax QED I fear - unless of course the clamps fell off the back of a lorry.
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If this is genuine, then you stand to be liable for 4 years back tax on the G Wagon & 18 months on the Rover!
As a rough calculation I make that about £800 to £900 due to Mr Darling
Edited by nick62 on 31/07/2008 at 22:29
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"I'll bet there are lots of people here who would love to know how locked wheel clamps are removed intact."
- Jack the corner up.
- Cover wheel and tyre with soapy water (or similar)
- Rotate clamp around wheel bit by bit, using the slack in the fitment until tyre valve is exposed as much as possible usually still obscured by large yellow metal triangle.
- use finger tips to remove valve cap and deflate (or cut valve off)
- When tyre is deflated, turn steering full lock until one clamp bar can be pulled over tyre, then turn on the other lock and do the same.
- Reinflate tyre or fit spare.
- Call clamper to pickup clamp from a public area where your car is not in site, I always make it the middle of a pedestrianised area so that they have to carry it a long way (they're very heavy) while they consider their future.
If the car is RWD, you can also buy a cheap metal dinner tray and place on the road under the clamp (which always seem fitted to front) and drive quite well with tray sliding on the floor this will help you get to a private location to remove the clamp. Maybe even use a wheeled dolly.
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Unlike removing clamps from private operators removing a DVLA clamp is an offence, I wouldn't mess with them.
Do not confuse the advice here about removing clamps for parking somewhere and DVLA clamps - the people giving this advice are unlikely to do your time for you !
Edited by Pugugly on 31/07/2008 at 20:26
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that is exactly why i phoned the dvla to inform them of the situation im now furry dicing myself
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Even if you successfully remove a clamp, won't this stop any kind of fine being posted out or fine being passed to a bailiff company.Surely they have access to NPR and backed up with photos.
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I've seen some cars with the DVLA clamps on near me. Neither very old (52 plates).
First one I didn't take much notice, second I saw the words "DVLA" on it. By the time I got back to the first one some 15 minutes later it was gone! So they don't waste much time taking the car away too! And how would you know it was taking by NCP on behalf of the DVLA. Couple of days later it was back.
My guess is they were about to put to clamps on (you were in the wrong) and they were called away for some reason and on their return you'd moved the cars and clamps. So maybe no tickets or photos of the offence and you're lucky and they will be glad for the clamps back.
... on the other hand you might still get done for a vehicle on the road without tax but at least you're not also paying the cost of removing clamp, taking vehicle to the compound and storage charges.
What I don't understand is why you moved the cars and then went for the JetSki. Could you not have done the moving when you got back and been able to explain to NCP?
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Thanks for reminding me to get one of those petrol-engined angle grinders PU. I had forgotten why I wanted one, but I remember now.
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jus been advised by honest john himself via email. take the clamps to the local police station and log condition and mr police mans number and time you handed them in and see what happens any thoughts on this option or should i throw them in a river never to be seen again. (only kidding)
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any thoughts on this option
Yes, if things are really as you say, do it.
I don't advise actually attributing remarks possibly intended to be private, by the way.
Edit: My view.
Edited by FotheringtonThomas on 31/07/2008 at 23:53
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message for rtj im currently hobling round on a twisted ankle juggling the feeding times of a seventeen wk old baby whilst trying to have fixed two lumps of steel that i called cars and a jetski that needs a full engine re build so i can sell all three and possible avoid my wife going beserk at me because we have two cars that dont work a jetski that is knackered and a motorbike thats in the way of everthing else plus my wifes car as well oh and the fact s he was having a womans procedure done in our doctors today that didnt work so she had to a womens clinic i just dont now why i moved the cars when i did but i did thats all i have to say on that. but im still smiling ;-) just
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I doubt the clamps were on so I will keep fingers crossed all works out. :-)
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having first spoke to the dvla to find out information ie clamping team number and if they had been i subsequently found out via widnes ncp that the cars were clamped and they have photos which im not disputing im just trying to explain that they had been removed from the cars with all its notifcation stuff and they were in the street. my money is on a scrap dealer or gypsey removing them to weigh them in some time between six at night to one in the morning when i returned and they have either been disturbed or decided it was to risky or they were spooked and ran off either way their going the police station in the morning because i dont want to done for theft or robbery especially when their intact ;-)
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Now the car mystery seems to be sorted out, I'd try a bit of WD40 on your keyboard. Try hitting Caps Lock, comma and full stop keys a few dozen times; that usually frees them up!
;:,.' :-)
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Think you might have "fun" explaining that... "Honest Officer, I never removed the clamps!!" - your word against their proof that they were clamped... and why would anyone remove both clamps and then not bother to take the vehicles away? They've done the hardest part, in fact they'd probably just cut the clamps as it'd be quicker... If I had my car clamped and wanted to make it look as if it was someone else had done it I would make as much noise as possible to whoever I could think of about finding these "miraculously" removed and undamaged clamps... such as the DVLA and Police and a forum... sorry, kiddo, but thats the way it looks to me...
If I was you I'd just hand them in and keep your fingers crossed....
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A couple of weeks back a DVLA logo-ed van with roofmounted ANPR cameras drove in & out of our cul de sac & continued round the estate. Although they could do the SORN etc checks on vehicles around during the day what would happen to the untaxed/not SORNed ones as this in Scotland where clamped isnt permitted?
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in Scotland where clamped isnt permitted?
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Is clamping not permitted in Scotland under any circumstances whatsoever?
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It's just the clamping for parking on private land that is no permitted,
DVLA can do what they like. I wish they had a portable crusher so the owners could see them getting crushed.
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Thanks for that superb advice on how to remove a clamp.
I was parked behind a restaurant, The Orange Tree I think it was called, in Wilmslow or somewhere like that, and the staff said, "better move your car". I legged it and a big dude was putting long chains around the back wheel. I jumped in the driver's seat and he pulled the chains off. He said, "must be your lucky night."
Thinking about it, what were the chains? Were they goin gto lift it onto a trailer or something?
To be fair there were signs saying that "you will be clamped" or something but... you know. 9 oclock at night, no other cars about, five minutes, will be ok...
Also, the big dude had three friends in a car waiting for him. A car, not a truck.
Can't help thinking that it would take a very cool customer to get the clamp off with four big horrible gentlemen breathing on one.
I now have one of those foam-spray tyre inflater jobs standing by, cheers
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I reckon OP has a nasty neighbour who shopped him to DVLA. However, on seeing the cars being clamped, nasty neighbour had an attack of remorse and removed them. The only explanation.
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The only explanation.
I like my explanation better. "The clampers had probably forgotten the keys for the clamps and had just gone back to their base to get them."
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"To be fair there were signs saying that "you will be clamped" or something but... you know. 9 oclock at night, no other cars about, five minutes, will be ok.."
You seem to have form for bad parking. Ticket in one post clamp in another. If you think you can push your luck when you park up, you deserve anything you get.
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I undertand that this post is quite old. But why has no one asked the OP.How the **** did he know the clamps were on his vehicles?~No paper work, no stickers on windows and states a 3rd party removed them and does not know who?
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