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The price of Petrol compared ... - Dog
Think a gallon of petrol is expensive?

This makes one think, and also puts things in perspective.


Diet Snapple 16 oz £1.29 .. £10.32 per gallon


Lipton Ice Tea 16 oz £1.19 .£9.52 per gallon



Ocean Spray 16 oz £1.25 ...... £10.00 per gallon



Brake Fluid 12 oz £3.15 ...... £33.60 per gallon



Vick's Nyquil 6 oz E8.35 ... £178.13 per gallon



Pepto Bismol 4 oz £3.85 . £123.20 per gallon



Tippex 7 oz £1.39 ....... . £5.42 per gallon


And this is the REAL KICKER...

Evian water 9 oz £1.49..£21.19 per gallon! £21.19 for WATER and the buyers don't even know the source

(Evian spelled backwards is Naive.)


You don't even want to compare it with perfume or after shave. Ever wonder why printers are so cheap?


So they have you hooked for the ink. Someone calculated the cost of the ink at................
(you won't believe it....but it is true........) £5,200 a gal.. (five thousand two hundred pounds)


So, the next time you're at the pump,be glad your car doesn't run on water, or Tippex, Pepto Bismol, Nyquil or God forbid, Printer Ink!
The price of Petrol compared ... - Optimist
Quite right.

But very few of us buy Liptons Iced Tea seventy litres at a time. And if you don't fill your body up with iced tea it will still go whereas your car, short of fuel, won't.

The price of Petrol compared ... - movilogo
This joke is floating over internet for past few months.

Compatible ink cartridges are far cheaper than OEM ones.

Tap water, which is free (well sort or, we pay water tax) is perfect replacement for Evian water.

For all other cases, I have an alternative choice - so their price really doesn't matter.

For petrol we don't have a choice (public transport is not always an option).

And fuel price directly affects price of all other goods.


The price of Petrol compared ... - Kanberlingoo
What's the average price for a pint of beer these days, £3.00, £3.50? At £3.50= £28 a gallon. And how often do you hear the boasters on a Monday morning saying they had 12pints in one session. £42 on beer, + fags, at what, £4 a pack, whilst stood outside in the rain smokin' 'em, but each to their own. I've posted elsewhere on this forum about a day out SWMBO & I did to Blackpool & for the experience, against app £10 & 3 times quicker by car, using our bus passes. We reckoned it would have cost us over £35 to do the same trip in fares. And before anyone pipes up & says they are paying for our bus passes, just remember to get one you have to be 60+, & unless you've been a lazy pink fluffy dice instead of grafting, you've already paid for 'em. £6 a gallon? Cheap as chips. ;) ;) ;)

Edited by Webmaster on 21/07/2008 at 18:26

The price of Petrol compared ... - Optimist
Cheap as chips?

Two pieces of haddock and one portion of chips cost us £10.40 on the way home the other night, the chips being £1.40!

I've suggested on here before that in the early 70's a gallon of petrol, a paperback book, and a packet of fags all cost about the same. By that measure petrol is cheap currently, but fags are mostly tax and if paperback books were the same size as in the early 70's they'd cost less to produce.

The price of Petrol compared ... - Dog
£6 a gallon can be seen as good vfm if, as in my case, ya don't do that many miles ... I can get 45 mpg if I drive my 1.8 Almera automatic like a cadaver on Valium but ... I have great sympathy for the hauliers and others who are being skinned alive by the geezer @ No. 11 for which I can't really offer any answers but ... one way to increase revenue could be to allow smoking in pubs + bring the boys back home !!!
The price of Petrol compared ... - SteVee
I think those 'gallons' quoted by the OP are US gallons - based on a 16oz pint, rather than a 20oz pint here - just multiply all 'per gallon' figures by 1.25

wasn't petrol roughly comparable to milk in price/litre at one time ?

just shows what a good job those oil companies do in getting a tax-loaded product out at a 'usable' price.
The price of Petrol compared ... - Kanberlingoo
The oil companies take the stick for the fuel price hikes, I think not. Consider the tax.

The geezer at No. 11 is just doing what he's told, by the geezer at No.10. This cretin has run the economy for the past 11yrs. 10 of them when he was in No. 11 & look at the cock-ups he made, now we're all paying for it, except the MPs who make sure their nests are well feathered, buy their household requirements & charge 'em to the tax payer, then get a fat redundancy pay out when they get kicked out of power. It's not a gravy train these "servants of the public" are on, but a molasses train, their greed is so thick. It is said that rulers of Banana Republics are corrupt, how long before this country is considered to be on the same level? if not already.

It's reported that the 2p fuel tax rise is on hold, how generous of these free-loaders to consider us mere underlings, by saving us the extra burden. The tax should be cut, not just to delay another rise in revenue.

Climbs off ones soapbox feeling a little better.

Edited by Kanberlingoo on 16/07/2008 at 20:18

The price of Petrol compared ... - qxman {p}
I guess politicians will always get a bad press, probably deservedly in certain cases. However I think we have to accept that the current global economic travails are very much down to the banking and finance sector who have seriously messed things up for all of us over the last decade and now the sky is dark with chickens coming home to roost. And remember that these guys wouldn't get out of bed for an MP's salary - they have secretaries who earn as much as MP's and they get bonuses measured in £millions. They have realised that success = big salary + bonuses. Failure = big salary + big redundancy payout + pension + taxpayer bails you out! (this is true both sides of the Atlantic).
I really don't think MP's (of any party) are freeloaders - they actually work pretty hard (mostly), are exposed to constant scrutiny, and their expenses are very modest by the standards of most of higher echelons of the private sector. I know this doesn't suit the 'Daily Wail' mindset, but its true.

Incidentally, if anyone thinks petrol would be cheaper under the Conservatives then they might want to reflect on Tim Yeo's (Con) comment that the suspension of the 2p duty rise is 'bad news for the environment'. I can only take that to mean that he would be in favour of the rise? And do you remember who introduced the 'fuel duty escalator'?
The price of Petrol compared ... - Kanberlingoo
"I really don't think MP's (of any party) are freeloaders" Really!

I reckon the biggest freeloader of this present outfit, were the Blairs, or at least the most publicised. Now we have the MPs voting out the attempt to ban their John Lewis list
of goodies that we pay for. The fact that there are higher paid people in industry etc. doesn't alter the fact that they claim for & get what they can get away with, with impunity, as they themselves make the rules.

The present economic debacle is global, but this country is marked out as the most heavily taxed in Europe, with or without the mire we now find ourselves in.

"Rip off Britain" was never more apt.

The price of Petrol compared ... - qxman {p}
The present economic debacle is global but this country is marked out as the most
heavily taxed in Europe with or without the mire we now find ourselves in.


Would you care to provide a citation? I think there are a number of other European countries where the tax take (as a percentage of GDP) is higher than ours, in several cases quite a lot higher.

I suspect that if the tax on fuel were to be reduced then we would pay more tax elsewhere. The housing market has collapsed (prices ramped up followed by credit crunch) so the Chancellor will be facing an estimated £5bn shortfall there. The 2p duty postponement will cost over £1bn. No doubt unemployment will be rising soon. The money has to come from somewhere. The British public have shown that they vote in favour of lower income tax, so I guess the tax will have to be applied to expenditure and motoring has shown itself to be relatively 'inelastic' in terms of tax applied.
Personally I think that raising income tax would be fairest, possibly with more bands. All these additional taxes on motoring are rather regressive. On the other hand, has anyone else noticed a bit less traffic on the roads in the last month or so?
The price of Petrol compared ... - b308
I've seen posts on other forums that indicates whilst fuel is often cheaper abroad, they have other taxes on cars that more than makes up for it! Eire is a good example, I think?

Re traffic, yes I noticed when I came back into the country at 1400 on Saturday and drove up to Brum that I never got held up anywhere (even on the M25!) and traffic was noticably lighter than previous years...

Would agree that MPs are feathering their own nests, though - I know its not motoring related (except for their expenses?!!) but it needs to be said, perhaps eventually they may take note... on the other hand, they probably won't!
The price of Petrol compared ... - Mapmaker
>>For petrol we don't have a choice (public transport is not always an option).


Nonsense. Diesel.
The price of Petrol compared ... - L'escargot
I've done a rough comparison of petrol price and average wage and I reckon that petrol is relatively cheaper now than it was in the 1960s. Standards of living rise all the time, but most people seem to ignore that.

Edited by L'escargot on 17/07/2008 at 08:19

The price of Petrol compared ... - Kanberlingoo
My "Citation"

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The wine link could be related to er! drink driving. ;)

The price of Petrol compared ... - qxman {p}
My "Citation"
tinyurl.com/5bolrq
etc.


I'm afraid those links don't work for me.

The total tax take as a proportion of GDP in the UK is actually slightly below the European average, and well below that of certain European countries (France, Luxembourg, Denmark) etc. I could go on, but there is plenty of info on the internet (look at OECD or IFS sites). Remember that we have relatively lower income tax than many European countries, particuarly for higher earners.

In terms of 'Green Taxes', we actually pay less now than in previous years. The Treasury will raise the equivalent of 2.8 per cent of GDP this tax year from environmental taxes (fuel tax and duty, vehicle excise duty and air passenger duties). This is higher than last year?s 2.7 per cent but it is one of the lowest figures since 1987, when green taxes made up 3.1 per cent of GDP. You can find all this data on the Institute of Fiscal Studies website.

Anyone who thinks that a change of government will lead to lower fuel taxes and VED should undertake a careful reading of Conservative policy documents. You will find that they are very much in favour of increasing environmental taxes.
The price of Petrol compared ... - nick
>>Anyone who thinks that a change of government will lead to lower fuel taxes and VED should undertake a careful reading of Conservative policy documents. You will find that they are very much in favour of increasing environmental taxes.

Indeed they are, but they also say that any rise in a 'green' tax will be offset by a reduction elsewhere unlike the current lot who just want more and more. Mind you, a politician's promise is worth......?
The price of Petrol compared ... - qxman {p}
Indeed they are but they also say that any rise in a 'green' tax will
be offset by a reduction elsewhere


Reductions in Inheritance Tax and Stamp Duty on houses over £1m? I can't wait.....
The price of Petrol compared ... - Kanberlingoo
Sorry about the links being US. I admit to not trying one after posting them.

Getting back to the OP. What's the opinion/feeling for scrapping the VED altogether & raising the fuel tax to compensate. That way everyone pays to use the roads. That would also eliminate at a stroke the ones who don't tax their vehicles, getting away with it. Also, instead of a tax disc having to be displayed, an insurance one would have to be. (as it should be now IMHO)

Bringing that idea in needn't be a total logistical nightmare, (although it would need some serious planning, giving the DoT something to do) if VED refunds were to be issued to coinside with the abolition of the VED.

I expect those who now only pay a smallish VED???? will soon rubbish that idea. ;)



Edited by Kanberlingoo on 17/07/2008 at 18:34

The price of Petrol compared ... - Optimist
I agree.

Not only does it deal with people who don't pay VED, it's a more realistic way of imposing a "green" tax because the more you drive, or the bigger the car, the more you pay in duty.

It's so astonishingly logical it will never be adopted.



The price of Petrol compared ... - qxman {p}
I agree.
Not only does it deal with people who don't pay VED it's a more realistic
way of imposing a "green" tax because the more you drive or the bigger the
car the more you pay in duty.
It's so astonishingly logical it will never be adopted.


I think its a good idea too. Its been proposed many times, but is seen as unfairly punishing higher mileage drivers (the rural lobby jump up and down, for starters) and 'business' doesn't like it.
You could go further and put a basic third party insurance cover on the price of petrol (I think the did this in B.C. Canada at one time, maybe still do?).
The price of Petrol compared ... - Snakey
I don't have a problem with the price of petrol. All the work involved in getting it, refining it and delivering it makes the price of the fuel a bargain.

70 odd % tax then makes it look very expensive.