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car stolen off driveway - motorprop
Volvo 240 estate reg mark D688HNX was stolen off a driveway back in March. I parked it on my driveway to stop a nasty neighbour with an attitude issue from parking there, in fact I bought it for 122 quid just for that purpose. Apparently , about 10 years ago a previous owner of that property did not own a car and didn't object to the neighbour parking there - he then developed ' ownership complexes ' and began to believe the property was his , even though he only rents the Ist floor property - only my ground floor one has off -street parking . Previous owners to me sold up due to that neighbour's bullying - I have owned the place for 5 years and will see him off - he's 20 years older and a sad case ultimately. I own the ground floor flat and the freehold to his, which he rents off a property company , in a way I'm his ' superior ' landlord but we have no official dealing.

Anyway , one day my tenants texted to say a scrappie knocked on the door to say he had an agreement with the landlord ( which is me ) to take the car away... I called back to say no such agreement was made , they were naive and told him nobody was going to be in the next day.. when the car was towed off the drive ( it was a non runner ). There were deep scrape marks in the road where the 2 vehicles exited the driveway to go uphill.

I reported it stolen on the phone straight away. The car was on SORN and was not insured. I actually called a scrappie's number that the tenants took off the windscreen for me after we spoke, but an old woman answering it claimed her son the scrappie was 200 miles the day it happened..

Obviously I have no proof it was him and it could have been another . The police have not contacted me back despite some chasing from me. I told them I wasn't worried about the financial loss , more at the brass neck to steal an old barge in broad daylight.

I retain the V5 and 2 sets of keys . Is there a scrapyard register to find out what happened to it - constructive ideas welcome ?
car stolen off driveway - b308
Have you taken a wander round the local scrappies to see if any of them have it? Just go in and say you are looking for a bumper for Volvo 240!

If you find it tell the local coppers, don't tackle the scrappie direct!

Perhaps you need to fit one of those poles at the entrance to the driveway, if he breaks that and parks his car then he has caused damage to your property and may have broken the terms of his lease?

Also I'm assumung that you are not using your drive as you've had the Volvo parked on it, why not tell him if he wants to use it you will rent it to him, that way you'll make some money out of it and gett less hassle!

Edited by b308 on 15/06/2008 at 09:18

car stolen off driveway - kennybase
Sounds like your going to be having fun with this one!

Not sure what to suggest about the car, but I assume as you've reported it stolen now would mean, should it be driven or left somewhere, you're not responsible for it now.

For the drive, is it possible you could put in one of those bollards that you need a key to lower? If any damage is done to that, then that is criminal damage OR you could wait till he parks there and then put a bollard up, so he can't get out again! A few days locked in and he should soon learn his lesson....

Good Luck!
car stolen off driveway - pafosman
Morning
and there was me thinking I was the only one with this sort of problem! I hope you will regard this as constructive? Write it off as landlords expenses and replace the Volvo with a similar car asap. When that one is towed away/set fire to etc do it again (& again) until you win. I doubt if the police could care less as this is a civil matter and without any further evidence you will only make solicitors more wealthy?
My solicitor advised me to attempt to sort things out without recourse to the law as in my case it was a bit vague and could lead to protracted debate.
My problem people (not even tenants - but someone who lived 2 doors away) backed down after I 'allocated' the disputed space to a roofing contractor who is a fairly hefty sort of a chap. They moved shortly after.
Good luck
car stolen off driveway - pendulum
Can you get a camera up which covers the parking area? You could then park another banger on it and hopefully find out who steals it this time. From that you may be able to identify which scrappy has been tricked in to taking it and demand it be delivered back (or another banger to replace it). It may show your 1st floor neighbour is the one taking it and you would then have some evidence?
car stolen off driveway - maltrap
Even a dummy camera would deter most undesirables.
car stolen off driveway - wotspur
if its your garden and you don't have the need of a car - dig it up and plant some trees and relay a lawn -if you need for a car then a lockable post that only you have a key for. Good luck
car stolen off driveway - Westpig
my 'sensible head' is telling me... life is too short to have these hassles and if you don't need the space for yourself then live and let live

however, despite it being Father's Day and being well chilled...my 'reality head' has taken over..

so... good on you, make sure you don't back down...and keep us posted

p.s. if you own the freehold, can you up/introduce service charges or similar?

p.p.s. my motor cycle is secured to my garden shed floor with a ground anchor. If you get another old nail, you could fit a ground anchor underneath the rear axle and a suitable chain/padlock, which would severely slow down a scrappy... and the other chap couldn't pretend it is his car, because if it was he'd have the key to the padlock wouldn't he?
car stolen off driveway - nick
Store something immovable for a while, like a tonne of bagged sand. Or get a couple of heavy planters, 1/4 fill with brick rubble, some soil and some nice shrubs.
car stolen off driveway - gordonbennet
I'm probably wrong, as usual, but a thought has occured to me.

As the price of scrap has gone up appreciably, this may be a case of the itinerants cruising around in their transit pick up having spotted the motor, and chanced their arm.

Your hostile neighbour (i hate bullies as much or more than anyone) may actually have nothing to do with this.

What makes me think this you found scrape marks on the road, i'd have thought most scrappies would have a hiab or proper wagon to keep the scrap vehicle off the road and less chance of police interest (tyres and the like), the itinerents won't have a care in the world, and would drag it up the road on the brake drums.

That planter suggestion sounds good, and prettier.
car stolen off driveway - Dog
I be reckoning that your Volvo is now as flat as your flat m8 and that the engine, which had probably done over 200k is now sitting prettily in another 240 which will be good for another 100k ... why not fit an inertia type of alarm to your next anti-parking device - with a loud ooter.
car stolen off driveway - oilrag
"That planter suggestion sounds good, and prettier."

And I though you had a statue of Karl Marx holding a can of Waxhoyle GB ;)

A high sided skip would be a good socialist solution, better than another idol of capitalism surely?
As a nod to Capitalism and 6 cylinders, fill it with blow up FIA dolls that are only visible from the flat above.

;)

Edited by oilrag on 15/06/2008 at 17:04

car stolen off driveway - gordonbennet
And I though you had a statue of Karl Marx holding a can of Waxhoyle
GB ;)


I'm thinking Oily one, give me time, as a worker i don't have the quick mind of the bourgeois multi talented highly literate scholars that can be found here, i'm that proletariate numbskull who's only purpose is to do the bidding of the party apparatchiks..:)

I am ashamed to say the only overt decoration of my allegiance in my garden was our marvellous Union flag, till the wind took it down, and to my disgrace has not been replaced, but be assured it will go back, bigger and bolder and higher than before.

Any impressions of socialism are possibly mistaken, if i had a statue it would be of Winston Churchill.

I still think you're a closet fan of the 'Bradshaws'..:)

And SWMBO spends a lot of time shaking her head these days, wondering whether the whole of the BR is crackers.:)

Edited by Dynamic Dave on 15/06/2008 at 22:10

car stolen off driveway - oilrag
"I still think you're a closet fan of the 'Bradshaws'..:)

Someone`s probably spotted the metal in your flagpole Jubilee clips from the road GB... ;)

Never heard of the Bradshaws, (honestly) did they make it as far as Yorkshire?


car stolen off driveway - bathtub tom
>>And SWMBO spends a lot of time shaking her head these days, wondering whether the whole of the BR is crackers.:)

She needs to question our sanity?
car stolen off driveway - motorprop
I thought about the planter a long time ago. The problem with that is by doing that I'm showing the OSP space as reduntant and invite all and sundry to block off the access to the driveway so it may be difficult to re-surrect .

There is nothing painted across the driveway ( there is a full dropped kerb as an access 0

get this , I actually paid the council their fee 2 years ago to paint the yellow line across the driveway, when it wasn't done 2 months later I phoned the council dept to chase up, and they said that when they showed up during the day to carry out the job, ' the landlord ' ( the sad neighbour ) appeared and said the job was no longer necessary ....
car stolen off driveway - oilrag
"Any impressions of socialism are possibly mistaken"

I was teasing GB ;) But not about the Waxhoyle;)

Edited by oilrag on 15/06/2008 at 21:16

car stolen off driveway - rtj70
To protect the parking space for future use of your tennants then fit a security post and then get another scrappie? If you find it was him who got it scrapped then scrap his car too pretending it's him ;-)
car stolen off driveway - gordonbennet
Bathtub

I don't think SWMBO has quite got her pretty head around the idea that you have to be 3 parts potty to get entry to the BR, and will very soon complete the process once here.:)

Oilrag

I know you're a tease :) Mind you i think i may have gone a bit over the top this weekend, probably get a stern warning soon, will try not to get so emotional over my working class sympathies and roots (in your professional opinion do i need help, what am i saying you're as daft as the worst of us)..:):)

Look up 'the bradshaws' on google, will come up as Buzz Hawkins and the bradshaws.

A radio series which i first heard some years ago on Century radio, Nottingham.
I believe they've diversified (there i'm back in nulab lala land again, keep taking the tabs) into a tour now.
They started as a recorded series for radio and can be bought off their website, simple stories set around Manchester working class (i'm in) family in the 50's with sexist father, barmy mother and their son Billy. (Billy would pronounce it WaxHoyle, thats what made me think).
Very gentle humour, and great fun to listen to as a cd (there are a lot and you do become hooked) in the car on journeys.
I'm surprised you haven't heard of them, i believe you would enjoy the humour.

Kind regards GB
car stolen off driveway - oilrag
"you're as daft as the worst of us)..:):)2

Dafter GB ;);) Thanks for the info.

Hope the roads are clear for you.
car stolen off driveway - Lud
(Billy would pronounce it WaxHoyle thats what made
me think).


A late friend of mine who used to do market research was conducting a group discussion on some sort of furniture cleaning product when a lady reduced the group to baffled, and in some cases horrified and alarmed, silence by uttering the word: 'Orsehoil'.

Turned out she meant some sort of hoil that was used on 'orses, possibly to polish their hooves.
car stolen off driveway - oldnotbold
The fun thing to do would be to concrete in a metal hoop in the centre of the parking space. Buy another 240, and get a welder to put an eye on the under side to line up with the first. Secure the car using a motorbike security hoop, and retire.