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1998 1.9 dt Headgasket Change - how difficult - cakewalk
Recently aquired 306 dt

Supect head gasket gone. Mayo in filler cap plus, yesterday I idled car on drive with header tank cap off, after 10mins looked like I'd poured a cappuccino in it!!!!!!

The car has never overheated, I noticed the mayo when checking the oil so I am hoping the head wont be warped and I wont need it skimming

I have read up in the Haynes and it seems like a monster job.

Just after a bit of confidence from anyone who has tackled it before or weather it realy is a garage only job. I consider myself a reasonable diy mechanic and have plenty of mates i could rope in
1998 1.9 dt Headgasket Change - how difficult - drivewell
Never done one, but know plenty folks have. Would only want to comment on whether or not the head needs skimmed.

In my experience, it is always prudent to have the head skimmed, especially if, to your knowledge, it's never been skimmed before. You may find oversize markings on the existing gasket which will confirm whether or not it's been skimmed in the past - of course, you won't know this until you have the head off. Why go to the bother of fitting a new headgasket, and spoil the job for the sake of another £30 or so.
1998 1.9 dt Headgasket Change - how difficult - DP
I always find when undertaking "bigger" jobs for the first time, two things are important:

1) You read the manual several times to fully get to grips with what's involved / any special tools needed / tools you don't have

2) You allow an entire weekend (and if possible have a contingency for the following week) so you can work without rushing. Rushing is the worst thing.

I tackled the cambelt, fuel pump belt, tensioners and water pump on my Mondeo TD after much deliberation. It took me a whole weekend as I ran into loads of problems, but I was using a warm, dry garage, had everything I needed before I started, and if it wasn't done in time, it wasn't the end of the world.

That said, I reckon I could do the job in an afternoon next time. It always helps if you don't drop the timing hole plug down the back of the air-con compressor bracket.....

Cheers
DP
1998 1.9 dt Headgasket Change - how difficult - cakewalk
Thanks for your replys so far guys

This is a second car so time isnt an issue and I should be able to be quite methodical

As it stands I may have a possible buyer but if I cant get what I need for it then I will be
phsycing my self up to have a bash

As a matter of interest to any Peugeot experts out there, can I get the head off and leave the camshaft in situ and just remove the sprocket or does the camshaft need to come out???

Ta

1998 1.9 dt Headgasket Change - how difficult - thomp1983
not really a bad job as headgaskets go, but don't bother if your not going to do the following,

headgasket,
full headset fitted (new camshaft seals, valve stem seals etc.)
new timing belt, tensioners, waterpump
new head bolts,
service rest of engine,

all the parts for the above were less than £200 the last time i did one including having the head skimmed, and if your going to the effort there's no point in not doing it properly for a couple of more hours work.

if you weren't renewing any components in the head or having it skimmed you wouldn't need to touch the camshaft or it's pulley, just lift the head off as a whole assembly.

1, park car, handbrake on
2, loosen drivers side front wheel bolts,
3, crawl under car use 22mm socket and breaker bar to loosen the crankshaft pulley bolt, it'll probably be quite tight, once undone nip it up again not to tight,
4, open bonnet,
5, jack drivers side of car up, put on axle stand
6, remove wheel
7, loosen and remove intercooler bolts, then intercooler
8, find 6mm allen key
9, behind the starter motor there is a hole in the gearbox housing, put the allen key in it, (may be easier to undo and remove the 3 starter motor bolts)
10, get a 22mm socket put it on the crankshaft pulley bolt, turn the crankshaft bolt clockwise whilst at the same time pushing the allen key into the hole (easier with an assistant but can be done solo) keep turning until the allen key drops into the hole(you'll understand when you do it, may have to turn the engine for quite some time reasonably slowly),
11, thats the engine now on it's timing marks,
12, now put a trolley jack and block of wood under the sump and jack it up until it takes the weight of the engine,
13, remove the left hand side engine mount, basically move the fuel primer to one side, remove the rubber bung if there, then carefully undo the 4 5/8 size bolts and remove the top half of the mount (careful engine doesn't suddenly slip of jack and trap your hand),
14, now remove the 10mm bolts holding the front cambelt cover on, then do the same for the rear cover, except there is one bolt at the back of the cover which is 11mm,
15, now looking at both of the exposed pulleys you will 2 timing holes with a threaded insert behind, on the cam pulley it's at about 4 o clock and i think 2 o clock on the fuel pump, now find the 2 short bolts from the intercooler, they are the right size to fit in the timing holes,
16, now under the arch, remove the crankshaft pulley bolt and pull of the pulley,
17, now remove the lower cambelt cover, all 10mm bolts,
18, now look at the new belt tensioner and you'll see a square hole in it, find the same hole on the car, a short 3/8 socket extension will fit in there and you can then use a ratchet to apply or release the tension,
19, undo but don't remove the two bolts holding the tensioner, now use your ratchet to push the tensioner towards the windowscreen, whilst holding it there use your other hand to release the belt from behind the tensioner,
20, with the belt now loose remove it from round the rest of the components,
21, now replace the waterpump,
22, now replace both the tensioner and idler pulley, to do this you'll need to remove the rest of the metal engine mount, the bolts are quite obvious,
23, replace the belt in the same manner you removed it,
to tension the new belt pull the ratchet towards you then tighten the tensioner bolts at the same time,
24, with the tensioner tightened push the belt in the middle between the two pulleys you should have about half an inch of deflection if correct (check the old belt before removing to give you an idea),
25, now remove the two timing pins in the pulleys and the allen key,
screw the crankshaft pulley bolt into it's hole (leave the pulley off) if you keep screwing it in then the engine will turnover,
26, turn the engine over by hand at least 8 times, then put the timing pins back in as you did at the start, if you've done it all right it'll turn over with no issues
27, recheck the tension again,
28, if alls well then refit the lower cambelt cover,
29, refit the crankshaft pulley,
30, refit everything you've removed, torque all required bolts correctly (except crankshaft pulley which is done last)
31, remove the allen key (2 intercooler bolts will have already been done when fitting the covers and intercooler,
32, turn the engine over again by hand to check there's no rubbing on the cam covers or any other issues,
33, if alls well then top up the engine coolant as you'll have lost alot when doing the waterpump, bleed it properly,
34, put the road wheel back on, lower the car to the ground then torque up the crankshaft pulley bolt,
35, job done start her up then tidy up

i wrote the above for a cambelt change, you will need to do all of that and a couple of more bits to remove the head, there's not alot to it it's just time consuming. extra parts to remove will be glow plug wiring, exhaust manifold, remove it's studs from head and leave it in situ (tie a bungee cord around it and to a point on the bulkhead to keep the weight off the exhaust downpipe. inlet manifold, remove completely just a couple of bolts, use a proper allen key on them, not an allen key socket etc. as they will round off and then things become a bit tricky. thermostat housing, get new seal for bottom of the fuel filter housing where it joins the thermostat housing (dealer only). vacuum pump, 3 bolts on gearbox end of camshaft, awkward due to water hoses, just below the vacuum pump is a bracket for the water hoses, this also needs removing, 1 bolt. think thats everything, make sure you undo the headbolts in the correct order, this is very important! there a t55 torx bit available from halfords etc. when you remove the head be careful the locater doesn't fall out and get lost, when refitting the head, put the locater back in the block first, then fit the headgasket over it, and use some grease on the opposite corner to help keep the gasket in place while your putting the head on. (make sure it is the corner and not near any of the oilways/water galleries/ pistons.)

the 3 most important things you will have to have are, digital camera, marker pen, sealable sandwich bags. when you remove a component put it, and it's fittings in a sealed bag and write on it what it is. if there are more than a couple of nuts/bolts for the component or some are different lengths then take a photo of there arrangement before removing, or get some cardboard put holes in it numbered 1-4 say in roughly the same position they fit on the car and put the relevent bolt in the right hole then put in sealed bag, into cardboard box securely where the bolts won't fall out, basically proper working practices is the name of the game to doing this successfully and pain free.

think that more or less covers it, before starting the job though take the rocker cover off and measure the valve clearences, ideal time to do them as the camshaft needs removing to fit new shims, also test the glow plugs once you got the head on a bench, so much easier to do the so called hard two whilst it's out.

buy some proper penetrating fluid (plus gas gets my vote, or the loctite freeze spray), make sure you have a decent set of 6 sided sockets, make sure that any tool you use to undo a bolt fits properly and DON'T just think oh it'll be alright as the lack of space makes stripped/damaged bolts and nuts a nightmare on these, if something feels tight coming out, spray it in penetrating fluid, wind it back in a bit then in and out until it does come out, time lost here is easily worth it over dealing with broken bits. (if you haven't got the idea ive seen a few peugeot nuts/bolts break for a variety of reasons, especially both sets of manifold bolts)

chris
1998 1.9 dt Headgasket Change - how difficult - cakewalk
Blimey {blasphemous comment substituted}, thats an awesome answer

If i do tackle the job it will be getting printed out and stuck on the garage wall!!!!

Ive just had the cambelt and tensioner done, also the aux belt and tensioner so they should be ok but I will heed your point about doing the job right. Whilst its out and all that!!

Many Thanks

Ben

ps Will let you know how I get on....................

Edited by Dynamic Dave on 08/05/2008 at 20:03

1998 1.9 dt Headgasket Change - how difficult - thomp1983
if the belts have just been done then fair enough, was the water pump done too?

chris
1998 1.9 dt Headgasket Change - how difficult - DP
It is good practice to replace timing belts whenever they are removed, regardless of how new they are. Retensioning used belts can cause problems both in terms of fatigue on the belt, and getting the tension right.

In your case, just replacing the belt should be okay, as the tensioners will be new. As thomp says, also check the water pump very carefully, and renew if you're in any doubt. Check for roughness or play in the bearings, and any sign of coolant seepage.

For a cambelt on its own, without the tensioner, you're probably only looking at about a tenner, and there's no extra work involved if you're pulling the head off.

Cheers
DP
1998 1.9 dt Headgasket Change - how difficult - Peter.N.
Go for a laminated steel gasket if you can. When I did my XM there were no head gaskets available from GSF I had to buy a genuine Citroen one, it was expensive but looks almost indestructable, I've done about 50k on it now with no problems at all. Yours will certainly much be easier than an XM! I believe that you can now get the laminated gaskets from motor factors. Citroen called mine a 'repair' gasket and they only came in one thickness.

Edited by Peter.N. on 08/05/2008 at 23:57

1998 1.9 dt Headgasket Change - how difficult - thomp1983
oh good point peter, the 306 has 5 different thickness headgaskets to allow for getting the compression right due to to tolerance differences when the heads are first produced, the thickness of your gasket is determined by the amount of notches on the bottom right corner. now if you get the head skimmed ideally you should find out how much is removed and buy the appropriate gasket to match (ie. if they remove 20thou you want a gasket the same size as yours plus 20thou etc. those figures aren't accurate.) or you could do as most people do and get the thickest gasket which has 5 notches, the slight change is compression is usually unoticeable and it makes things simpler

chris