In the interests of safety!
New stricter Driving Tests to be announced today
Does that mean less bad drivers allowed on the road?
or, as the cynic might view it
MORE UNLICENCED/UNINSURED Drivers?
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I watched one of those cops chase kiddies shows on the TV last week.
I think I'm right in saying that one they caught was about fourteen. I may have misheard but I thought he was banned from driving for a year. That must have sorted him out.
If FB is right, what do we do about people who just flout the law on the roads? Why not a simple sticker to show the car is insured for a start?
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In brief, it will cost a lot more for learners to get a legal driving license.
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........ what do we do about people who just flout the law ..........
Does that include those who admit (brag even) about habitually exceeding speed limits?
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just flout the law .......... exceeding speed limits?
Those aren't 'the law' you tiresome gastropod, they are mere regulations to a person of spirit...
:o}
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Sitting in car parks I often see what are presumably`school run qualified drivers` trying to get their road monster into parking spaces nose first.
Unable to reverse in presumably due to lack of ability and with around 6 spaces free a driver was seen in Bridlinton the other week having to give up trying and driving out of the car park.
I have even seen someone trapped at the side of a concrete pillar in an underground car park unable to work it out. Acting as though turning the wheel just moves the car in the turned direction equally front and back at the same time.
Perhaps more effort needs to be put into testing for actual car control rather than trying to get more technical in the test.
Having said that ( prior to getting into the car) perhaps a spinning clutch plate mounted on a broom handle could be applied to the posterior to demonstrate friction equals heat and abrasive wear.
A `lollipop` ( as in formula one pit stop) with £400 written on it, would then descend and be held in front of the learners vision.
You just live in hope that you don`t have to constantly teach drivers how to be kind to the car after passing the test.
regards
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maybe its a vain attempt to cut down the ever increasing number of road users, with todays culture of everybody wants everthing yesterday maybe its a good thing
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We had one lady at work who couldn't reverse her Maestro and regularly used to ask someone else to do it. On two occasions in carparks I've had complete strangers ask me to park their car!
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should there be a not fit for purpose limit on driving tests? i was listening to r5 live this morning and some woman in leicester took 50 driving tests!!! would you sit in a plane with a pilot in similar circumstances?.....
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I heard that in Switzerland you can attempt driving test only 3 times! After that you need a psychological counselling before attempting another one.
Driving is not everyone's cup of tea - so we need to impose a limit of number of attempts.
It should also affect insurance premium (say up to 3 no increase, over 10 big increase etc.)
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"would you sit in a plane with a pilot in similar circumstances?"
Unlikely but possible. There's no limit to the number of times candidates can take civil aviation examinations, either those on the ground or in the air. I know of people with ATPLs who took four times as long as me to go first solo! The sole selection criterion is the ability to pay - about £70k for the full set to fly for Ryanair/Easy et al.
UK military pilots tend to get two chances at max, and only the once. Use up the life, and fail further down the line, and it's curtains, in many cases.
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I was following a big 4WD on the road the other day, a Mitsubishi Shogun with a couple of other logos on it, I forget, sort of a sporty Shogun.
Now unlike others here I am something of a libertarian where motoring is concerned - other things too, but never mind them - without being especially depraved or immoral. I don't object to massive jeepy things on principle, even when people use them in town.
What I do mind very much is these things being driven in a completely half-baked, wimpish way so that they cause maximum obstruction and get horribly in the way, as this Shogun did the other day. They have power steering so precise manoeuvring isn't a problem. Yet they stick their colossal stupid rumps in your face at every opportunity, whether they need to or not.
Personally I think anyone who has learned to drive in an ordinary small car should take another test when they acquire one of these things. That would sort out the sheep from the goats.
I love the Swiss thing in another post, about how if you fail the driving test three times the men in white coats move in and take you away for your own good and that of society. Perhaps we can persuade the new London mayor to introduce something similar here.
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A company I went to work for, a gazillion years ago, made me and other new starters, complete a skidpan course at their expense before they would let us drive any company cars. Quite apart from the fact that it was great fun it may even have saved my life a couple of times since. Should be part of the driving test in my 'umble.
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New stricter driving tests.........
..................... great - so they've found a way of weeding out the aggressive, the impatient, the arrogant, the inconsiderate and the unintelligent??? Splendid!!!
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...complete a skidpan course at their expense before they would let us drive any company cars. Should be part of the driving test in my 'umble.
You really want to meet a Corsa full of chavs coming round a bend a four wheel drift? Some techniques are only suitable for the mature person. As for following road signs, I must have been ahead of my time because I taught that for years, it instilled far better obsevational skills than "take the next left", etc. I oncwe suggested it to an Assistant Chief Driving Examiner and was told it wouldn't be suitable for learners.
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I think it's quite shocking how quickly the driving test is evolving. I'm just 24, and since I passed my driving test there have been a few major changes:
Hazard perception test
Maintenance questions - eg. how to check oil IIRC
Green driving
Also a 2 or 3 new highway codes
By the time I'm 40 things will probably be completely different, but many of us will probably still have the original license which allows us to drive on the roads.
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many of us will probably still have the original license which allows us to drive on the roads.
Do you anticipate being a danger to other traffic under those circumstances P3t3r, or do you think you will have mutated into a snarling heavy-footed old bruiser like me lambasting the nanny state and griping about ghastly modern people who have never had the chance, poor dears, to learn what it's all about?
The latter I earnestly hope.
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SNIPQUOTE!Do you anticipate being a danger to other traffic under those circumstances P3t3r or do you think you will have mutated into a snarling heavy-footed old bruiser like me lambasting the nanny state and griping about ghastly modern people who have never had the chance poor dears to learn what it's all about?
I'm an active advanced driver, so I should be OK. The majority probably won't be though :(
Edited by Dynamic Dave on 07/05/2008 at 21:02
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Well, stricter driving tests would have a positive effect of driving standards, rather than negative, but maybe only minimal.
But if more people can't pass, after several attempts, that will increase the number of illegal drivers without licences. Also more people will be tempted to pypass the test altogether.
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In Australia, when you buy your registration(Tax) it also has 3rd party ins. So something similar could be done here, when you buy your tax it would include 3rd ins, you cound then choose to top up the insurance to fully comp, this is the way it's done in aus. seems to work well and means anyone is insured to drive anyone elses car.
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seems to work well and means anyone is insured to drive anyone elses car.
There would be absolute carnage if that happened in the UK with teenage lads driving the monster engined cars that are available for next to nothing as no-one wants them these days.
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