>>would forego almost all life's pleasures rather than have 2 wives.
You're getting old.
Unfortunately I know how you feel ;>)
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Marriages can be strangely parallel to car ownership if you track the emotions from "pre-purchase" to disposal.
Desire, anticipation, delight, contentment, boredom.........best get a new one !
Edited by shoespy on 05/04/2008 at 11:42
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PS - only changed once myself mind. The depreciation on the first one was enough to discourage any further trade in ! 40 cars so far though. ;-)
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I assure you that having 2 wives is way cheaper than having 2 ex-wives! Trust me on this one!
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Pathetic.
64mph in a 30mph zone and he gets away with it? The courts here in the whole of the UK are getting by far too soft on their approach to the correct punishment for a growing list of most serious of crimes committed by foreign nationals.
What if he had of lost control or a vehicle or pedestrian entered his path at that speed? It would have most certainly been a fatality (hopefully just his own) wouldn?t it?
There are a lot of foreign national drivers in my neck of the woods. It is always them you see in the press or making the local radio /TV news for having been prosecuted for no insurance, driving licence violations, causing traffic accidents because of their bad driving, and many other traffic offences. Predominantly (yes, I know Muslims are not supposed to drink alcohol) drink driving or speeding offences.
They very rarely get banned or a custodial though as they have excuses like this plonker and get away with it ? leaving us at risk to their bad driving.
Why do the courts or what ever system it is that sets the guidelines for the level of punishment for crimes committed see the courts responsible for issuing that punishment ignoring them?
That?s like a parent making idle threats to a most recalcitrant child of punishment for it not behaving and then not carrying that punishment out isn't it?
It just shows that the child can continue to behave the way it is with no real fear of it being correctly chastised.
No doubt, we will see this guy in the press again and probably soon for yet another serious traffic violation that puts innocent members of the public at serious risk of injury or death?.
What does the Muslim legal system of Sharia law hand out as punishment then for this sort of crime or is it not serious enough for their own legal system to become invovled?
Edited by Tron on 05/04/2008 at 12:16
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Is bigamy not also a crime in this country? Why does the law only apply to those of us who don't intentionally set out to break it?
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Where does it say he's a foreign national ?
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Where does it say he's a foreign national ?
PU, I was about to post the same question. I suspect the usual Mail agenda of bashing anybody living outside of it's Middle England readership and morality.
How would a court normally approach sentence for an offence in dicretionary banning territory?. Business and retention of livelihood likley to weigh heavier than his domestic arrangements. Scottish (or English) civil law will presumably only recognise one of his marriages - or even neither.
Bigamy requires deception in relation to contracting/registration of the marriage.
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I have a very good book written by Lord Northcliffe the then owner of the Mail. A fasinating commentary on WW1 from a rather er...unique point of view. Reassuring things haven't changed in 90 years.
And Bromptonaut is quite right about the Bigamy thing.
Edited by Pugugly on 05/04/2008 at 13:09
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The potential of this disposal for inflaming religious and/or racial tensions makes it very curious.
The government clearly does not need to consider very much the question of incorporating Shariah law into our statutes because in practice it seems we already have it.
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Where does it say he's a foreign national ?
Pugugly,
I stand corrected.
It does not.
Foreign National, Settled Status or exactly what his status is; it is not even mentioned never mind defined in the original text. I made an wholly self assumed and most incorrect assumption there. Retracted.
However, this man has still commited a crime and has been able to manipulate our legal system in his favour by using his religious or his cultural backgrounds approach to marriage.
Even if his business did rely upon him keeping the ability to be able to drive. By him doing 64 in a 30; this is just not an issue that any of our courts should not have issued a more severe and worthy punishment then that awarded.
This man may have two wives, but that in no excuse for him putting innocent members of the public at risk.
Unless it was a real life or death issue (feedback from any such highly qualified drivers would be appreciated) and I serioulsy doubt that even an emergency response vehicle, blues & two's going or not, would go at that speed?
yet we hear regularly of 999 genuine emergency vehicle driver responses as well as blood and kidney (and other live human organ) donor transport drivers that are being banned (instantly loosing their jobs?) or fined for driving above set speed limits. These people could or even are actually saving a persons life. A real and genuine reason for a vehicle exceeding the speed limit is it not?
So this selfish person doing no more than 'meeting his matrimonial needs' with two different women and being able to sustain, run a business and earn an income is a real and justifiable enough reasons for him to stay on our roads?
Complete twaddle!
Rant over, I'll go and have a cold shower now...
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As Bromptonaut says, this is not bigamy. There are many British Muslims who have more than one wife and its perfectly legal.
I suspect that the reporting is a little provocative and a significant reason for not banning this driver was probably his business interests. I've read a number of cases where drivers have been treated very leniently because they need to drive for their business or 'provide employment'. IMHO that is a reason to drive MORE carefully though!
And of course 'Mr Loophole' has helped more serious offenders escape punishment.
Like many people I have little faith in British justice or those who are involved in it. I was once stung for several £1000's by a crooked solicitor. Complained to the Law Society and they confirmed he'd been a naughty chap, but nothing was done.
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This story sums up everything that is wrong in this country, no wonder so many decent people are emmigrating.
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The man must have no sense if he really advanced the two wives as an argument against being banned. As someone said, the loss of livelihood argument is often enough.
You can't blame the Mail for picking up a story like this if people (or their legal advisers) are stupid and insensitive enough to offer it up.
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After a bit of searching I found some (english) sentencing guidelines covering speeding offences - www.jsboard.co.uk/downloads/acbb/section2a.pdf See page 75.
If I read this correctly the court could either disqualify for up to 56days or issue up to six points, but not both. Six points will stay with him for three years; they might conceivably influence his behaviour more than a few weeks in taxis.
As a totee he'd be disqualified for a minimum of six months- if he's been flashed previously for 35 in a thirty he may now be just one offence away from that.
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theres only one thing worse then having two wives and thats having two mother-in-laws
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theres only one thing worse then having two wives and thats having two mother-in-laws
You lot are wired up wrong! My Mother-in-Law is an Angel...................................or that's what I was hoping for......
MD
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You nicked that off the late great Les Dawson ---- he'd be happy to hear it re-told though !
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