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What fuel consumption gaffs/efforts have you made - oilrag
What fuel consumption efforts and mistakes, including purchase, have you made over the years?.

1) 1967 Mini van, fuel consumption (best) 38mpg on east coast run. Fitted a Mangoletsi ? Manifold modifier, which basically just seemed to do nothing except cut performance as it reduced inlet manifold diameter. Had every fuel and oil additive going but no gain, wasted money.

2) 1979 Yamaha SR 500, fitted Dunstall megaphone and promptly lost around 15MPG. by having to re jet ect, to avoid a massive flat spot. came to the conclusion that the original exhaust was `tuned` to the engine, but didn`t put it back ;)

3) That `really economical`, much loved 2CV that actually could be forced down to 30MPG on maintained full throttle on the M1. (sold after 87,000 miles after losing me a fortune in mileage claims)

4) Its replacement, the 1.6 petrol auto Maestro that eventually got down to 23mpg on long runs as its main jet wore due to the rubbing needle. Sold in desperation as it needed leaded petrol too.

5) The saviour of my finances, in the early 90`s recession, the new Maestro Clubman D, that could get 60MPG, drew max car allowance and ran for 130,000 miles.

Boring after that as i had learnt a lesson, but for some reason as the years went on and fuel consumption became less of an issue for the pocket, it became an issue for the mind....

I think its just me really, can`t blame Yorkshire for that ;)


Edited by Dynamic Dave on 29/03/2008 at 20:13

What fuel consumption gaffs/efforts have you made - oilrag
Whoops, that should read 1967 mini van, sorry {It does now - DD}

Edited by Dynamic Dave on 29/03/2008 at 20:13

What fuel consumption gaffs/efforts have you made - cjehuk
Golf TDI Auto - 33mpg and a max of 37mpg with effort.

Audi A3 TDI - 60mpg without much effort, best of 65mpg

Audi TT - 40mpg average to date

I've got a habit of going for economy records in my own cars... though USA rental cars seem to have unusually bad consumption for me in the last six months.

Rental Jeep 3.7 Grand Cherokee (USA) - 20 UK MPG / 16 US MPG to a best of 25mpg / 21mpg US
Rental Dodge Charger 2.7 (USA) - 19 UK MPG / 15 US MPG to 21 UK MPG / 17 US MPG
What fuel consumption gaffs/efforts have you made - drivewell
Best ever was almost 75mpg (brim to brim, over 500 motorway / dual carriageway miles at 50mph in the inside lane in a 405 1.9 GLD estate. That was back in '94 or '95. Couldn't wouldn't drive that way as a matter of course - just wanted to see what was possible. A steady 60mph in my current '05' plate TDCi Mondeo (130bhp) gets getting on for 60mpg over a decent run. Previous Picasso 2.0 hdi did about the same.

Worst ever - that has to be my 1974 Hillman Hunter GLS. 1725cc with Holbay head and a pair of Webber 40 DCOE's - effectively one carb. per cylinder. Murder to keep in tune, scary on fuel when driven as it demanded, and engine power that far outclassed it's handling capabilities. Guy who bought it from me in 1979 drove it for two weeks before rolling it into a field. He survived, but the car didn't.
What fuel consumption gaffs/efforts have you made - drivewell
though USA
rental cars seem to have unusually bad consumption for me in the last six months.
Rental Jeep 3.7 Grand Cherokee (USA) - 20 UK MPG / 16 US MPG to
a best of 25mpg / 21mpg US
Rental Dodge Charger 2.7 (USA) - 19 UK MPG / 15 US MPG to 21
UK MPG / 17 US MPG

Must confess I've often been surprised by the economy of US rental vehicles. 2000 miles in a Buick Century (nearly 30 US mpg) / 1000 miles in a Buick LeSabre in 1992 (about 28 US MPG), 2000 miles in a Mitsubishi Montero (Shogun Sport) in 2002 (around 25 US MPG). 2000 miles in a Grand Voyager in 2004 (around 23 US MPG). Most outstanding was 5160 mile road trip, starting and finishing in Denver last summer. Again, a Grand Voyager (well, something like a Dodge Caravan Town & Country LTD). 3.5L, I guess. Averaged out around 26 Miles per US gallon. I thought that was impressive.
What fuel consumption gaffs/efforts have you made - nick62
Wow Oilrag, bad enough buying ONE Maestro............... but to buy two consecutively must involve some sort of masochism.

Certainly some sort of "Yorkshire" truism (is that actually a word?) involved as well.
What fuel consumption gaffs/efforts have you made - gmac
I had a 1990 Golf GTi which averaged 38mpg. We bought a new house which required some work so the Golf had to go, I was given a brand new 1996 Pug 306 XRDt as a company car - no fuel card. Great ! I thought major savings to be made...I averaged 35mpg with that car.
What fuel consumption gaffs/efforts have you made - mark999
Saab99 GLS auto no amount of tunung, carb servicing could improve the 19-22mpg
was as slow as a snail, but built like a tank
What fuel consumption gaffs/efforts have you made - Alby Back
Land Rover 90 - 3.5 V8 petrol stripped out, roll cage, bull bars, big balloon style offroad tyres on oversize wheels, extended wheelarches, ( this is getting embarassing but I was a lot younger then ) orange bodywork, great big spotlamps, trick..... ahem ...loud that is....exhaust, sports steering wheel and seats. Lots of unnecessary stickers and a ski rack.

12mpg if you took it steady, more like 8mpg if you gave it the beans :-(

Just a hoot to drive mind and we did live a long way from a public road and had a lot of open country to play on ! Rubbish on the motorway.
What fuel consumption gaffs/efforts have you made - astrabob
In the early '90s, I had a 1998 Ford Escort, with the 1.3L OHV engine.

Although it was fairly economical and returned about 40mpg, I decided to see what I could do. I was using unleaded petrol, and the timing was set for 4*, but I still wanted to see if I could advance the ignition.

The result was that with the timing advanced, it performed better, and the economy improved to 44 mpg! Not bad for half an hours work.

I was really pleased, until 10,000 miles later someone drove into the back of it and wrote it off. The hire car I had was a more modern Escort, and fitted with a catalyst, it only gave about 30mpg. Since then, I've only owned diesels.
What fuel consumption gaffs/efforts have you made - gordonbennet
Astrabob, you've just brought my old mate Horace (rip) back to my thoughts, he taught me a lot of good old common sense tricks with cars, obviously no use any more, but made my varied array of vehicles run as well and as economically as possible.

He always said ignore the timing lights, loosen distributor, and adjust timing gently till you get peak revs, at the same time weakening off the mixture whilst listening for a really sweet exhaust note, then turn back timing just a fraction, had to road test carefully to get it just below the pinking point.

Very hit and miss it sounds but it wasn't a bad way to get your own vehicle running as well as possible, and i invariably ended up with that lovely light grey exhaust pipe outlet as against sooty.

I used to richen the mixture on my turbo diesels very slightly as well, sounds counter to the economy tweaks, but it would mean you could drive around at very little over tickover revs as the turbo would start to spool up at much lower revs.

Don't suppose the experts will agree with any of that, and those tinkering days are over, but one size never has fitted all, and all engines vary very slightly, and that was a very crude way of getting the best out of them in a kerbside cowboy way.

Funny you should say about the catalyst equipped vehicles being not as economical, a friend bought a rounder shaped (cat) fiesta diesel to replace his classic fiesta diesel, economy went from 50 mpg to 40 mpg.
What fuel consumption gaffs/efforts have you made - mike hannon
In the late 1980s I had a Honda Aerodeck 12-valve 2 litre on a standard twin-choke carb that went like the clappers and never dropped below 40mpg. I think the 12-valves of that era were the best engines Honda made - excepting the 2.2 VTEC, which was designed for high performance but can still manage 36mpg with no dirt, smell or rattles. (I say that after - yet again - getting filthy shoes and car mats after having to use the same multi-pump as the oiler brigade).
The Aerodeck was also nice to look at, quiet, comfortable and highly practical. Why did Honda stop making inspired cars like that?
What fuel consumption gaffs/efforts have you made - mike hannon
Oh, I forgot to mention the Legend 2.7 litre V6 that was shared with the Rover 800.
Fantastic performance, a delight to drive and never less than 30-32mpg although it was laden with anti-emissions gear.
Why can't they do that now?
What fuel consumption gaffs/efforts have you made - Martin1981
"I was given a brand new 1996 Pug 306 XRDt as a company car - no fuel card. Great ! I thought major savings to be made...I averaged 35mpg with that car."

I generally average between 42 and 45mpg in my 306TD and I don't exactly drive slow. However, if booted around town then the fuel economy can drop as low as 37mpg. The fuel economy on these tends to suffer if thrashed around town or driven at over 85mph on motorways.

Martin
What fuel consumption gaffs/efforts have you made - AlastairW
Gmac you must have a very heavy foot. I owned a 306 XRdt, and even though I hated it and drove with my foot on the floor most of the time, got over 45mpg most of the time , with a peak in excess of 65.
You might think it was a mistake changing to a petrol after that, but I don't regret it - the reduced maintenance costs make up for the fuel consumption.
What fuel consumption gaffs/efforts have you made - Clanger
1) 1967 Renault 4 would do well over 60 mpg owing to the lightweight body (fresh air held together by rust flakes). Sold during the "fuel crisis" (ha, we didn't know anything then) of the early '70s for more than I paid for it. Used the proceeds to buy a 3.4 Jaguar S-type automatic with fuel tank in each rear wing. 18 mpg if I was lucky, but I was surrounded by leather and walnut and I didn't care. Contrary to current advice about tyre pressures, I used to run the big Dunlops soft so they would chirp away from the lights and squeal on roundabouts.

2) Faced with a 140 mile/day commute in 1992, traded a Citroen CX GTi (22 mpg) for a Citroen XM 2.1 diesel (44 mpg).

3) Unless my calculator is faulty, Mrs H's C3 1.4 diesel is getting more economical as it matures. We could depend on it doing 57 mpg until it turned 60K miles. Now it returns 63 mpg on Total Excellium. I think it needs replacing, but Mrs H won't hear of it.

What fuel consumption gaffs/efforts have you made - Dyane 6 Mehari
3) That `really economical` much loved 2CV that actually could be forced down to >> 30MPG


That's poor 2CV technique! Full throttle achieves nothing at full speed. Once the car will go no faster (wind direction will play quite a role in this) ease off the throttle until the speed starts to reduce slightly. That's the optimum position.

With electronic ignition fitted I managed to get 65-70MPG out of mine using it to commute daily from Brighton to Reigate back at the turn of the century. That included a 20 mile stretch of A/M23 at approproate speeds for the road.
What fuel consumption gaffs/efforts have you made - Lud
Quite right D6M... I had a Dyane and earlier a 425cc Bijou and was too impatient and heavy-footed for both of them (especially the Bijou which was awfully slow except down very long steep hills). I would be better now, but don't terribly fancy 2CVs any more...

Apart from cars with carburation and/or ignition problems, I have owned two very economical cars and two very thirsty ones. The thirsty ones were the R Type Bentley (8mpg London, 17 on the road not exceeding 70) and the Lada 1200 estate (25-28 mpg at best driven as briskly as possible, i.e. not very). Also had a VW 411 that did 28mpg on the road at any speed, but of course it was much nicer than the Lada and a lot faster too.

The two most economical were a swing-axle Skoda Estelle 1200 that, driven fairly gently, could do better than 50mpg on the road, and a Peugeot 205 diesel that returned 52mpg in Europe four up, seldom exceeding 90mph for long. Skoda 130s were a bit less economical but could always manage 40mpg or so. Honourable mention must go to the Renault 18 GTX, quite a rapid and pretty device that returned a decent 30mpg cruising at any speed between 80 and 100 on the motorway. That Renault 2 litre ohc engine was awfully good with its little twin-choke downdraught Weber. Ask any French garage man.
What fuel consumption gaffs/efforts have you made - Niallster
I cycle to work. 5 miles each way. I would like to say it was to go green and save the planet but to be truthful I took a look at myself and I was 50 yeras old 20 kilos overweight and a major candidate for a heart attack.

Now I feel great and have lost that 20 kilos.

The crazy part is that it is much QUICKER to cycle than drive as I work on the notorious Moulton Park industrial estate in Northampton. 1 road in and out each end and 20 minute jams to do so at peak times.

Work has bike sheds showers and lockers so really no issue.
What fuel consumption gaffs/efforts have you made - Martin Devon
Bedford CF2 petrol van. 13mpg on motorway at 70 ish (then)

Volvo 850GLT auto 170BHP 22.5 (now)

MD
What fuel consumption gaffs/efforts have you made - craig-pd130
I zip-tied two strong magnets to the fuel line near the float chamber on my first car (1.3 Escort) and I swear it improved throttle response. Did the same on our Fiesta too. That's yer magnetohydrodynamics, that is.

Never took any consumption figures back then, because petrol always cost a tenner ;-)

My dad remembers that a gadget was available in the 50s / 60s which fitted over the carb mouths of Brit bikes, it was essentially a tea-strainer with hemp string. The idea being you'd soak the string mesh in water, and it would give something like the effect of water injection. Or not :)
What fuel consumption gaffs/efforts have you made - boxsterboy
I had a Dyane and earlier a 425cc Bijou and was too
impatient and heavy-footed for both of them (especially the Bijou which was awfully slow except
down very long steep hills). >>


The problem with the Bijou (apart from its small engine) was the extra weight of the glassfibre body over the wafer thin steel (and fabric roof) of a 2CV. Not condusive to speed or economy.

Edited by boxsterboy on 31/03/2008 at 15:49

What fuel consumption gaffs/efforts have you made - DP
In effort terms, I'm currently paying through the nose for premium fuel in an effort to increase fuel economy on the Volvo. I'm going to fill up tonight, so we'll see what the first tankful has done. Interestingly, the trip clicked over 400 miles as I pulled into the station car park this morning, and there's still a quarter of a tank showing on the gauge. The last three tankfuls on standard 95RON have all seen the light come on at 420-something. There has been no difference in usage patterns at all.

At first I could feel no difference at all in the car's behaviour - if anything it was cranking for slightly longer on cold starts. However, in the last two days, something has definitely changed. The engine is more responsive, and feels "sharper" on part throttle than it did, with a most satisfying surge under light throttle that took a much more deliberate input to achieve before. Unless the gauge is lying, I've got a marked economy increase too. Will know for sure tonight, and my full evaluation will be over 3 brim to brim tankfuls, but I reckon the light will come on at 450-460 instead of 420.

This isn't witchcraft, but exactly what the manual suggests the car will do when run on the good stuff.

It was doing 31 mpg on 95 RON, which is not bad for a 126,000 mile 2.0 turbo in 1500kg of car that, although not thrashed as such, is not driven gently either. It sees 5,000 RPM most days. It does however do all long runs.

Cheers
DP

Edited by DP on 31/03/2008 at 16:20

What fuel consumption gaffs/efforts have you made - madf
Had a 1982(? year) Mark 3 Jaguar XJ6 with 3.4 engine. Towed at caravan.. honest officer I never exceeded the legal limit.. but 13mpg was achievable on motorways if I slowed down... Best not to think of stop start town driving. Replaced the automatic choke with a new one £85iirc and mpg improved to 14 when towing..



What fuel consumption gaffs/efforts have you made - Lud
The problem with the Bijou (apart from its small engine) was the extra weight of
the glassfibre body


Yes, not just heavier but hopelessly cramped in the back and far less practical than a proper 2CV although the front seats were all right. The body was allegedly designed by Lotus and the car had a DS-type single-spoke steering wheel, so looked stylish (mine was in heavily-bloomed matt grey, my favourite colour for cars), but was really just a gimmicky shopping trolley for the wives of rich British DS owners, and a bit of a dog for a Citroen. I've had several cars of that sort I am not ashamed to say.
What fuel consumption gaffs/efforts have you made - barchettaman
I continue to put a slosh of acetone into the tank of the Astra at every fill.
It´s just habit now. But I think it made a difference when I measured the MPG back to back.
Otherwise, the main effort - particularly with the skyhigh petrol prices in Germany - is to use the pushbike as much as possible.
Worst gaff - driving from Dusseldorf to Calais, fully laden with a roofbox on, at full speed to catch a ferry.
19 MPG.
What fuel consumption gaffs/efforts have you made - Big Bad Dave
Manage to squeeze 41 mpg from a 3 litre saloon on regular 100 mile trips between my holiday hut and main residence. Country lanes with the cruise set at 45 all the way, light traffic, occasional mimser to overtake. The conditions are very specific however - you have to set out at sunset after a long scorching, baking hot Sunday. When I did it last week in 2 or 3 degrees I could only manage 37 mpg.

Worst - Jaguar XJS, driven like a loony

Edited by Big Bad Dave on 01/04/2008 at 00:01

What fuel consumption gaffs/efforts have you made - Nsar
I've tried, goodness knows I've tried to lighten my right foot.

But, well you know........either my inner demons or sheer boredom seem to conspire against me.

Edited by Dynamic Dave on 01/04/2008 at 11:43

What fuel consumption gaffs/efforts have you made - ijws15
Sometimes I manage to keep the boredom away to manage a full tank of really careful driving; very difficult in a diesel. The results

1987 Vectra 2.0 tdi (84hp) - 72mpg
Current Honda Accord - 57mpg (On French diesel last Christmas, SWMBO got nervous when it reached 650 miles since it was filled and the warning light had not come on. I was told to fill it up!)
2000 Passat 1.8T - 44mpg
1981 Fiesta 1.0 - 51mpg, doesn't look good compared with the others.

All measured brim to brim - don't believe trip computers!

Edited by ijws15 on 01/04/2008 at 09:35

What fuel consumption gaffs/efforts have you made - dxp55
1965 Ford Zodiac Mk3 auto - fuel bills for month were around £16 (I used to keep a log) good old days at 19mpg scrapped it for 2CV in fuel crisis of 70's-- after numerous small cars back to Japanese barges - 207bhp at 22mpg but Oh the luxury - 24 if I drive real smooth.