The French have been using these cameras for rifle target practice ...
Heh heh.
Of course they are treated as adults and allowed to have rifled smallarms in France. Nanny is thought vulgar there (although smoking is banned in bars from the first of the year).
Edited by Lud on 30/12/2007 at 02:18
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And in our village in France,the Police set up a roadblock to carry out breathtests-one officer was armed with a RIFLE,just in case you didn't stop.
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Nanny is thought vulgar there (although smoking is banned in bars from the first of the year).
And you thnk it will be a: complied with, and b: enforced?
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I do hope not AE. But I hoped everyone would ignore all these moronic bans here too.
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Of course they are treated as adults and allowed to have rifled smallarms in France.
We're allowed to have them here, too. I would, however, hesitate to shoot these cameras with a rifle - a shotgun would be a far better tool, with fewer possibilities of re-"percussions" (sorry!).
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CCTV was installed in an area next to several blocks of flats - camera (the round black type) was put there because of frequent trouble at a nearby pub (the type where they asked you at the door if you had a knife on you - if you replied "no", they gave you one to take in with you!).
They had to remove the camera as they could not assure the occupants of the flats that the camera operator could not look inside their homes. As a result of pressure, they simply refused to renew the pub license, so it closed down.
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ANPR is useful but only as good as the data it holds.
I was pulled over recently as my car came up as 'No registered keeper'. I had bought it the previous month and had had the V5 from DVLA for about 4 weeks when this happened.
As I am white and middle class, I was surprised when the guy who had stopped me let me on my way, saying words to the effect of 'Don't worry, someone's obviously a bit slow updating the system.' And yet conventional wisdom has it that us white middle class are now the targets of the police, seeing as we are so easy to trace and pay our fines without a fuss!!
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Sorry I cant see what point you are making here apart from 'ANPR is useful but only as good as the data it holds' ???
The fact that you are white makes you a target for prosecution?
The fact that you are middle class makes you a target for prosecution?
So you consider that you are white and middle class and felt that, based on your assumption that only white middle class motorists are prosecuted, then you should have been prosecuted because your details were not up to speed on the ANPR database?
In this case the fact that the ANPR database is never right up to speed and because you explained that you had only recently acquired the vehicle would mean that was the end of the matter whatever your perceived social class or ethnicity.
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I would have thought that the point was the police officer, instead of sticking to the absolute letter of the rule-the details were not up to speed, and therefore you are withholding information- used common sense. Of course, it could also have been the attitude used by the guy pulled up-no"I pay your wages, why are you not out catching real criminals" etc.
Police officers are human.
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My Sis in law who lives in London recently recieved a FPN for stopping on a box junction. The box was extended up to the traffic light stop line, and she stopped with her front wheeels about a foot onto the box having braked hard to avoid the red light camera, and traffic close behind made it impossible to reverse. The FPN was accompanied by a CCTV picture of her car. On enquiring how to appeal, she was told that the rule for a FPN was wheels stopped on box for 30 secconds.
1, Im glad that I havent lived in London for many years.
2, Im glad that I escaped from London FPN free after my christmas visit, too many cameras, red light, box junction. parking, bus lane, all with no discretion.
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My Sis in law who lives in London recently recieved a FPN for stopping on a box junction. The box was extended up to the traffic light stop line and she stopped with her front wheeels about a foot onto the box having braked hard to avoid the red light camera and traffic close behind made it impossible to reverse. The FPN was accompanied by a CCTV picture of her car. On enquiring how to appeal she was told that the rule for a FPN was wheels stopped on box for 30 secconds.
I bet you'll still have to pay out if the car in front decides to stop just beyond the end of the box thus blocking you in, even if the way forward is clear.
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2 Im glad that I escaped from London FPN free after my christmas visit too many cameras red light box junction. parking bus lane all with no discretion.
Maybe I spoke too soon, I hope there isnt a FPN in the post, and I forgot speed cameras.
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