Worried about the price of oil? Here is the answer to your problems! The government have been keeping this technology hidden so they can keep oil prices high and control the people.
www.water4gas.com/2books.htm
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"WHY COMPRESS HYDROGEN IN DANGEROUS HIGH-PRESSURE TANKS WHEN IT IS ALREADY "COMPRESSED" IN PLAIN WATER - AND CAN BE EASILY AND SAFELY RELEASED??!"
Yes that part is quite true. I clearly remember separating the hydrogen from water in GCSE chemistry with nothing more exotic than a 9v battery, some wire, two pencils and a beaker of water.
However, this wonderful breakthrough seems to somehow skate over the fact that the energy required by this (hydrolysis) process is greater than the energy yielded by the hydrogen when burned.
But hey, since when did facts get in the way of marketing? ;-)
Cheers
DP
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Edited by DP on 07/11/2007 at 08:23
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I often wonder what sort of person comes up with this stuff, I assume they know that it's a complete load of carp and are just out to scam money from people.
The other thing that gets me is that people do fall for this stuff, I mean come on, didn't everyone do some basic physics at school :)
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"didn't everyone do some basic physics at school"
I'm sure they did, but not all were paying attention. Of the rest, I suspect that a lot of people just don't 'get' science - they don't make any connection between the classroom and the outside world. Politicians seem particularly bad at it, which is not a cheap shot at them - I just think there are different mindsets that deal with information in different ways.
Edited by Dynamic Dave on 08/11/2007 at 10:40
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I guess it may possibly work if you had a hybrid and used the braking energy to make hydrogen rather than top up the main motor batteries (which could be ditched along with electric motor).
However you would need a way of storing the hydrogen (compressors etc) so the weight saving maybe negated.
But perhaps for hydrogen powered cars, using the braking energy to generate more hydrogen to be stored in a a low pressure tank might be worth looking at.
Personally I'd feel rather nervous at the thought of a car pumping hydrogen around being produced by some of the big motor manufacturers whose cars sometimes have serious fuelling system faults with current oil based fuels.
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You can hydrolyse H from H20 using less energy if you don't use DC at the electrodes, but use a high frequency AC. The H comes off both electrodes.
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You can hydrolyse H from H20 using less energy if you don't use DC at the electrodes but use a high frequency AC. The H comes off both electrodes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>i knew that ;~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~O0)
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This could be made to work if the all-powerful Politicians would kindly repeal the second law of thermodynamics. Under the present law, it takes more energy to accelerate and push the car up the hill than you can recover on the over-run and downhill.
There is, however, a group trying to run a diesel-engined car on a mixture of diesel and water, and they were recently trying to run a prototype in the "other alternative fuels" division of the Australian solar car race. This has been done for some time now on the big cathedral diesels in ships burning refinery left-overs where it is injected as an emulsion, but I haven't seen any recent reports as to how high-speed diesels on refined fuel accept it. Refinery left-overs have virtually the same specific gravity as water, so separation is hardly a problem there.
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With the recent rises in the price of crude, petrol and diesel I wonder if we will start to see more scams like this popping up.
Oohhh - I've just had a great idea. Fit a magnet around the fuel line to change the molecular structure of the atoms making them align and increase the energy given off when it burns, therefore increasing power, reducing emissions and saving the planet. In fact, it will probably even cure cancer!
Anyway, cant hang around here all day, I'm off to build a website for my new idea. I reckon a RRP of £25 should be just about right.....
As an extra note, there are people out there who believe they can cure cancer, one in particular has made lots of money selling their book on it. Having had three members of my family die from cancer in as many years, I find that stuff quite offensive.
So I guess the point is that while the Internet is a great source of information there is an equal amount of dis-information. In fact even on this forum you often see completey opposing views presented - who is right?
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as someone who loves conspiracy theories, I wouldn't be surprised if the governments around the world had suppressed this technology. I did see something some years ago about an Israeli power plant that ran off water. Then there was some technology that used water which the oil companies bought and buried.
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I remember seeing a similar add to this in a 1960's magazine - it was for something called the H20 Bomb. It didn't catch on 40 years ago so I can't see it catching on now.
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if you're bored enough to scroll down that website far enough you'll see two pics of a car instrument panel - it's doing around 60mph and only 500 rpm - what a great device!
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My guess is that he has taken the car out of gear and is coasting so that the mpg shows 275mpg - nothing to do with the 'device'.
I can also get my to do over 250mpg, without the need for a $50 e-book telling me a load of carp.
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A mixture of Hydrogen and Oxygen is just waiting to explode violently when an ignition source comes along.
Oxygen enriched mixtures are excluded from the certification standards as they are so unpredictable.
Whole site is madly against common sense and safety.
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You mean I just wasted $97 then ;-)
Like the title of "run your car on water".... all those cars driving through the flood waters earlier this year did really well with water in the engine :-)
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Wasn't water used to "power" the headlights on the first cars? I am sure it would be possible to convert an engine to run on acetylene so a water powered car would in theory be a possibility even if the costs of the carbide would be somewhat high.
BIG
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The Stanley brothers made cars that ran on water in 1906. tinyurl.com/28ebj6
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I'd not recommend burning acetylene. It tends to detonate when compressed and ignited.
;>)
Edited by Glaikit Wee Scunner {P} on 09/11/2007 at 11:39
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Hydrogen is not a solution to the energy crisis. It's more convenient to think of it as a type of battery than as a fuel source. Unless we have virtually unlimited electricity for electrolysis (I've never bothered to work it out but I'd guess in the region of hundreds of nuclear power plants), it doesn't really solve anything.
The bulk of the hydrogen in the world is generated, in fact, by burning fossil fuels. It's only clean at the car end.
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I've never bothered to work it out but I'd guess in the region of hundreds of nuclear power plants
calculations done for you:
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?v=e&t=64...7
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My Stanley Steamer won't run on petrol anyway. It needs water and coal. tinyurl.com/65oo4d
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Snake oil.
A mere £50 to buy the books that explain how you can save a fortune. A bargain. Or maybe not.
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Leif - why 100$ when you can find something better for 49%
www.cardriveby.com
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Interesting article in last Saturday's Telegraph magazine on utilisation of wind power in the Shetlands to generate hydrogen - which inter alia powers cars.
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The reason the price of oil is shooting up is that those interested parties, from the Saudis, Russians to the oil companies are making a killing before the stuff runs out.
There are alternatives, including water that have been developed and suppressed but will be brought online when the last drip of oil expires. Not until then.
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from the Saudis, Russians to the oil companies
You forgot to include George Bush and Texas in your list of conspirators.
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"I did see something some years ago about an Israeli power plant that ran off water. "
We've had them in the West for a long time - hydro-electric we call them.
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There are alternatives including water that have been developed and suppressed but will be brought online when the last drip of oil expires. Not until then.
What's really worrying is that they'll then start charging as much for water as they did for oil. Imagine paying £1 for a litre of water. What, you already do?
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